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Old 10-16-11, 02:05 PM   #37
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Default Re: High CPU issues on xorg-server-core 1.11.1-1 on Debian

Apt-get upgrade is totaly wrong!
And btw, since you are using testing, do

apt-get install xserver-xorg-core

And the GPG-error you can ignore, or do apt-get install frickelplatz-keyrings
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Old 10-16-11, 02:10 PM   #38
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Apt-get upgrade is totaly wrong!
And btw, since you are using testing, do

apt-get install xserver-xorg-core

And the GPG-error you can ignore, or do apt-get install frickelplatz-keyrings
It still didn't work:

# apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
xserver-xorg-core is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.

# apt-cache show xserver-xorg-core
Package: xserver-xorg-core
Source: xorg-server
Version: 2:1.11.1-1
Installed-Size: 4152
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Provides: xorg-input-abi-13, xorg-video-abi-11
Depends: xserver-common (>= 2:1.11.1-1), keyboard-configuration, udev (>= 149), libaudit0 (>= 1.7.13), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libpciaccess0 (>= 0.10.7), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6), libselinux1 (>= 2.0.82), libudev0 (>= 146), libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1 (>= 1:1.4.2)
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.10.2-4)
Suggests: xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable
Breaks: libgl1-mesa-dri (<< 7.10.2-4), libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (<< 7.10.2-4), xserver-xorg-input, xserver-xorg-input-2, xserver-xorg-input-2.1, xserver-xorg-input-4, xserver-xorg-input-7, xserver-xorg-input-joystick (<= 1:1.5.0-3), xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (<= 1.2.2-1), xserver-xorg-input-tslib (<= 0.0.6-3), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (<= 1:12.6.5-4), xserver-xorg-input-wacom (<< 0.7.8), xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-video-1.0, xserver-xorg-video-1.9, xserver-xorg-video-2, xserver-xorg-video-4, xserver-xorg-video-5, xserver-xorg-video-6, xserver-xorg-video-cyrix (<= 1:1.1.0-8), xserver-xorg-video-i810 (<< 2:2.4), xserver-xorg-video-imstt (<= 1:1.1.0-7), xserver-xorg-video-nsc (<= 1:2.8.3-4), xserver-xorg-video-sunbw2 (<= 1:1.1.0-5), xserver-xorg-video-v4l (<< 1:0.2.0), xserver-xorg-video-vga (<= 1:4.1.0-8)
Description: Xorg X server - core server
The Xorg X server is an X server for several architectures and operating
systems, which is derived from the XFree86 4.x series of X servers.
.
The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
and supersedes all XFree86 X servers.
.
More information about X.Org can be found at:
<URL:http://www.X.org>
.
This package is built from the X.org xserver module.
Tag: hardware::input, hardware::video, interface::daemon, network::server, role:rogram, special::auto-inst-parts, use::driver, x11::xserver
Section: x11
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.11.1-1_i386.deb
Size: 1700392
MD5sum: 711e9bf4f80f17aa89e0c84165fd872f
SHA1: 582d37f1cb7bf4c74b391fce21d2d97274307f3f
SHA256: add6df05ebef3d5437b63e86d11d26f08d43ecccb816ae40c8 05133b698aa83c

Package: xserver-xorg-core
Source: xorg-server
Version: 2:1.11.1.901-1
Installed-Size: 4126
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Provides: xorg-input-abi-13, xorg-video-abi-11
Depends: xserver-common (>= 2:1.11.1.901-1), keyboard-configuration, udev (>= 149), libaudit0 (>= 1.7.13), libc6 (>= 2.8), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libpciaccess0 (>= 0.10.7), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6), libselinux1 (>= 2.0.82), libudev0 (>= 146), libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1 (>= 1:1.4.2)
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.10.2-4)
Suggests: xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable
Breaks: libgl1-mesa-dri (<< 7.10.2-4), libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (<< 7.10.2-4), xserver-xorg-input, xserver-xorg-input-2, xserver-xorg-input-2.1, xserver-xorg-input-4, xserver-xorg-input-7, xserver-xorg-input-joystick (<= 1:1.5.0-3), xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (<= 1.2.2-1), xserver-xorg-input-tslib (<= 0.0.6-3), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (<= 1:12.6.5-4), xserver-xorg-input-wacom (<= 0.10.5+20100415-1), xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-video-1.0, xserver-xorg-video-1.9, xserver-xorg-video-2, xserver-xorg-video-4, xserver-xorg-video-5, xserver-xorg-video-6, xserver-xorg-video-cyrix (<= 1:1.1.0-8), xserver-xorg-video-i810 (<< 2:2.4), xserver-xorg-video-imstt (<= 1:1.1.0-7), xserver-xorg-video-nsc (<= 1:2.8.3-4), xserver-xorg-video-sunbw2 (<= 1:1.1.0-5), xserver-xorg-video-v4l (<< 1:0.2.0), xserver-xorg-video-vga (<= 1:4.1.0-8)
Description: Xorg X server - core server
The Xorg X server is an X server for several architectures and operating
systems, which is derived from the XFree86 4.x series of X servers.
.
The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
and supersedes all XFree86 X servers.
.
More information about X.Org can be found at:
<URL:http://www.X.org>
.
This package is built from the X.org xserver module.
Tag: hardware::input, hardware::video, interface::daemon, network::server, role:rogram, special::auto-inst-parts, use::driver, x11::xserver
Section: x11
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.11.1.901-1_i386.deb
Size: 1712222
MD5sum: d7606af243c0dc70bf59a0433e1da3e9
SHA1: 0fd9d571d852b33abcf3e575343040a08b507ec4
SHA256: 0ec6beba09cd4d36f75913e468570536779eb9b9a0ff65534a 5f2137244df59f

Package: xserver-xorg-core
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 4444
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Source: xorg-server
Version: 2:1.7.7-13
Provides: xorg-input-abi-7.0, xorg-video-abi-6.0, xserver
Depends: xserver-common (>= 2:1.7.7-13), xserver-xorg, keyboard-configuration, udev (>= 149), libaudit0, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.2), libpciaccess0 (>= 0.10.7), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.15.16), libselinux1 (>= 2.0.82), libudev0 (>= 0.140), libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1 (>= 1:1.2.9)
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.1~rc1)
Suggests: xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable
Breaks: xserver-xorg-input, xserver-xorg-input-2, xserver-xorg-input-2.1, xserver-xorg-input-4, xserver-xorg-input-joystick (<= 1:1.5.0-3), xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (<= 1.2.2-1), xserver-xorg-input-tslib (<= 0.0.6-3), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (<= 1:12.6.5-4), xserver-xorg-input-wacom (<< 0.7.8), xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-video-1.0, xserver-xorg-video-1.9, xserver-xorg-video-2, xserver-xorg-video-4, xserver-xorg-video-5, xserver-xorg-video-cyrix (<= 1:1.1.0-8), xserver-xorg-video-i810 (<< 2:2.4), xserver-xorg-video-imstt (<= 1:1.1.0-7), xserver-xorg-video-nsc (<= 1:2.8.3-4), xserver-xorg-video-sunbw2 (<= 1:1.1.0-5), xserver-xorg-video-v4l (<< 1:0.2.0), xserver-xorg-video-vga (<= 1:4.1.0-8)
Filename: pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.7.7-13_i386.deb
Size: 2413832
MD5sum: b429732544cf245ffcf7f6704b140e08
SHA1: 959ba2bc7a4b0a83f762eeda411f0bb923087b47
SHA256: bd2bf6269fbbf18a6ee35f3eb2c4ba4e5587d29dd5adbbb451 a49e11749f4d06
Description: Xorg X server - core server
The Xorg X server is an X server for several architectures and operating
systems, which is derived from the XFree86 4.x series of X servers.
.
The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
and supersedes all XFree86 X servers.
.
More information about X.Org can be found at:
<URL:http://www.X.org>
.
This package is built from the X.org xserver module.
Tag: hardware::input, hardware::video, interface::daemon, network::server, role:rogram, special::auto-inst-parts, use::driver, x11::xserver

Package: xserver-xorg-core
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 4037
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Source: xorg-server
Version: 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
Provides: xorg-input-abi-13, xorg-video-abi-11
Depends: xserver-common (>= 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1), keyboard-configuration, udev (>= 149), libaudit0 (>= 1.7.13), libc6 (>= 2.8), libdrm2 (>= 2.3.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libpciaccess0 (>= 0.10.7), libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6), libselinux1 (>= 2.0.82), libudev0 (>= 146), libxau6, libxdmcp6, libxfont1 (>= 1:1.4.2)
Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.10.2-4)
Suggests: xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi, xfonts-scalable
Breaks: libgl1-mesa-dri (<< 7.10.2-4), libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental (<< 7.10.2-4), xserver-xorg-input, xserver-xorg-input-2, xserver-xorg-input-2.1, xserver-xorg-input-4, xserver-xorg-input-7, xserver-xorg-input-joystick (<= 1:1.5.0-3), xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (<= 1.2.2-1), xserver-xorg-input-tslib (<= 0.0.6-3), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (<= 1:12.6.5-4), xserver-xorg-input-wacom (<= 0.10.5+20100415-1), xserver-xorg-video, xserver-xorg-video-1.0, xserver-xorg-video-1.9, xserver-xorg-video-2, xserver-xorg-video-4, xserver-xorg-video-5, xserver-xorg-video-6, xserver-xorg-video-cyrix (<= 1:1.1.0-8), xserver-xorg-video-i810 (<< 2:2.4), xserver-xorg-video-imstt (<= 1:1.1.0-7), xserver-xorg-video-nsc (<= 1:2.8.3-4), xserver-xorg-video-sunbw2 (<= 1:1.1.0-5), xserver-xorg-video-v4l (<< 1:0.2.0), xserver-xorg-video-vga (<= 1:4.1.0-8)
Filename: dists/sid/main/binary-i386/x11/xserver-xorg-core_1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1_i386.deb
Size: 1713654
MD5sum: 0d39a4c5c4f08f46df17e33759fe3297
SHA1: 95462895574be09f5f0d8496c3ddf8d16bc64477
SHA256: becb934221aa3a86d288a5170059f2320ec2087e765b11125f f4c7dbce095c74
Description: Xorg X server - core server
The Xorg X server is an X server for several architectures and operating
systems, which is derived from the XFree86 4.x series of X servers.
.
The Xorg server supports most modern graphics hardware from most vendors,
and supersedes all XFree86 X servers.
.
More information about X.Org can be found at:
<URL:http://www.X.org>
.
This package is built from the X.org xserver module.


BTW, when the official package comes out, will I be able to replace yours with it easily?
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Old 10-16-11, 02:14 PM   #39
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Default Re: High CPU issues on xorg-server-core 1.11.1-1 on Debian

apt-cache show foo

does not help

apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core

And btw:
Quote:
BTW, when the official package comes out, will I be able to replace yours with it easily?
The issue will not be fixed in the xserver, it must be fixed in the driver.
And in my eyes, debian testing is not the right distro for you.
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Old 10-16-11, 02:26 PM   #40
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apt-cache show foo

does not help

apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core

And btw:

The issue will not be fixed in the xserver, it must be fixed in the driver.
And in my eyes, debian testing is not the right distro for you.
# apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
Installed: 2:1.11.1-1
Candidate: 2:1.11.1-1
Version table:
2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1 0
500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
2:1.11.1.901-1 0
500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
*** 2:1.11.1-1 0
990 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
2:1.7.7-13 0
500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable/main i386 Packages

# apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
xserver-xorg-core is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.


The reason for testing is to get the latest versions. Stable is just too old and slow for the latest versions. I avoid experimental ones though which are too buggy.
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Old 10-16-11, 03:44 PM   #41
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I don't know, what exact you are doing, but with the frickelplatz-repo active, it should looks like
Code:
towo:Defiant> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installiert: 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Kandidat:    2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1 0
        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:1.11.1.901-1 0
        500 ftp://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     2:1.11.1-1 0
        200 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
or for 32bit
r
Code:
oot@Defiant:/# apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Version table:
     2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1 0
        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
     2:1.11.1.901-1 0
        500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
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I don't know, what exact you are doing, but with the frickelplatz-repo active, it should looks like
Code:
towo:Defiant> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installiert: 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Kandidat:    2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1 0
        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:1.11.1.901-1 0
        500 ftp://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
     2:1.11.1-1 0
        200 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
or for 32bit
r
Code:
oot@Defiant:/# apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1
  Version table:
     2:1.11.1.901-1.c0.frickel.1 0
        500 http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
     2:1.11.1.901-1 0
        500 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
Oh well, I guess I will have to wait for the official releases/fixes then. Thanks anyways. FYI, this Debian installation is pretty old from 2005. I guess it is very messy.
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Old 10-17-11, 03:09 AM   #43
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@ant:
Perhaps you should consider looking into Ubuntu (or one of the variants, depending on your window manager preference). It's based on Debian, but slightly more user friendly and more up-to-date.

In the future, please keep the user/distrobution specific support in separate threads. A lot of people may be interested in the developments regarding the actual bug, but completely uninterested in how to install unsupported packages in Debian.

Thanks.
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Old 10-17-11, 03:13 AM   #44
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just another data point: the problems i reported in my previous post were encountered while i was using compiz; now i'm using another (non compositing) window manager and afaict everything is ok

regards,
gb

Addendum 2011-09-30

i have installed the latest driver in the variuos driver series( 175, 180, 185), and i've verified that ALL the drivers give severely under par performance if used with compiz, while under twm the performance of ALL the drivers is OK
Corrige 2011-10-17

as this is one of the first posts in the thread, i want to correct myself so that we can limit confusion and misunderstandings.

it's not compiz or compositing. per se, that slows down X.
some apps slow down X significantly even under twm.
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@ant:
Perhaps you should consider looking into Ubuntu (or one of the variants, depending on your window manager preference). It's based on Debian, but slightly more user friendly and more up-to-date.

In the future, please keep the user/distrobution specific support in separate threads. A lot of people may be interested in the developments regarding the actual bug, but completely uninterested in how to install unsupported packages in Debian.

Thanks.
I have tried Ubuntu in the past (five years ago?), but upgrading majorly failed badly with its dist-upgrade that caused my reboot to fail to boot up the upgraded Ubuntu. At least with Debian, I didn't have to do that but just do parts by parts by doing daily upgrades and I can avoid upgrading other things. I will post in new threads for future discussions.
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Old 10-21-11, 09:52 AM   #46
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If you fear to patch and compile yourself, at
Code:
deb http://frickelplatz.de/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
i have uploaded the patched xserver, so you can easy install it with apt/aptitude, if you add this repo.

Big thanks for putting this together towo| - I couldn't use X at all, and this was an easy fix from the console
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The issue is finaly solved with the new driver 290.03.
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The issue is finaly solved with the new driver 290.03.
I don't see that driver online yet... how did you know? (Maybe I didn't look at the right place...)
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