Steam database hacked. Encrypted credit card information and passwords compromised

[Shamrock]

On the eve of Skyrim too.

Originally Posted by |MaguS|

Yeah where is the outrage like what was directed at Sony? This is far worse then Sony's since almost every account compromised on the Steam hack had a CC tied to it, that was not the case with the PSN Hack.

Eh, who knows. Most people, if not all, I know don't keep CC on file.

[Ninja Prime]

Originally Posted by |MaguS|

Yeah where is the outrage like what was directed at Sony? This is far worse then Sony's since almost every account compromised on the Steam hack had a CC tied to it, that was not the case with the PSN Hack.

Sony waited weeks to tell people about, and then other weeks to tell people the scope of it, and still more weeks to apologise for it.

[Bah!]

Originally Posted by Ninja Prime

Sony waited weeks to tell people about, and then other weeks to tell people the scope of it, and still more weeks to apologise for it.

And for the record Sony took exactly 6 days to tell people...the same time it took Valve. This happened months after the Sony incident and as many as THREE times as many credit cards could have been compromised as well as entire gaming libraries.

Your post is exactly what I was expecting when I made my last post. The fact that this situation is possibly WORSE than the PSN situation and you could still defend Valve while at the same time attack Sony shows just how ridiculous your anti-Sony hate train is.

Anyone who attacked Sony and doesn't do the same here is either a complete moron or a Valve fanboy.

[Ninja Prime]

Originally Posted by Bah!

And for the record Sony took exactly 6 days to tell people...the same time it took Valve. This happened months after the Sony incident and as many as THREE times as many credit cards could have been compromised as well as entire gaming libraries.

Your post is exactly what I was expecting when I made my last post. The fact that this situation is possibly WORSE than the PSN situation and you could still defend Valve while at the same time attack Sony shows just how ridiculous your anti-Sony hate train is.

Anyone who attacked Sony and doesn't do the same here is either a complete moron or a Valve fanboy.

So the 6th to the 10th = 6 days? Wish I was a math wiz like you... What about the rest? They didn't let on the scope of the breach for over 2 weeks.

Furthermore, all steams passwords were hashed and salted, and CCs encrypted, as opposed to sonys moron level plain text file security. It will take months, maybe years just to brute force a handful of CCs. Sonys breach was bad because of their lack of security.

Edit: I'm not trying to defend Steam, getting hacked like this is a major fail. Its just not as bad as Sonys hack, because their security was in order.

[Bah!]

Originally Posted by Ninja Prime

So the 6th to the 10th = 6 days? Wish I was a math wiz like you... What about the rest? They didn't let on the scope of the breach for over 2 weeks.

Furthermore, all steams passwords were hashed and salted, and CCs encrypted, as opposed to sonys moron level plain text file security. It will take months, maybe years just to brute force a handful of CCs. Sonys breach was bad because of their lack of security.

Alright, so 4 1/2 is acceptable to you but 6 is just way out of line?..lol.

And for the scope of what happens with this mess you have no freaking clue. All Valve has done so far is made a post telling people about it and they are still investigating which is what Sony had to do and it took time. Did Valve magically tell you the extent of the breach today?...no, they are investigating and I assure you they won't know the extent for a while.

As far as what was taken you are delusional. The only difference is the PW's, Sonys CC's were all encrypted as well but you had no problem giving them a hard time about that at the time, suddenly encryption matters to you? Never mind the fact that if a hacker gets your information you could lose your entire PC gaming catalog, where on the PSN that would have been impossible.

12 million encrypted CC's were taken from an old PSN database and you start spewing hate, but 33 million are taken from the current Steam database and you are defending it? The vast majority of those 12 million cards from Sony were old and out of date, just about every card on Steam is current!!

Sony lacked security? WTF do you call what just happened to Steam? Six months AFTER what happened to Sony and a dozen other companies!

It's seriously laughable how ridiculous your arguments are in the face of how you acted when this happened to Sony. Look up hypocritical in the dictionary, it probably has your picture next to it.

[Ninja Prime]

Originally Posted by Bah!

Did Valve magically tell you the extent of the breach today?...no, they are investigating and I assure you they won't know the extent for a while...

...12 million encrypted CC's were taken from an old PSN database and you start spewing hate, but 33 million are taken from the current Steam database and you are defending it? The vast majority of those 12 million cards from Sony were old and out of date, just about every card on Steam is current!!

Which is it? Either you know the extent to know those numbers, or you are making crap up, can't have both... Either way, you are wrong. Sorry Bah!, all those times you went down on Sony were for nothing.

[MUYA]

I Did the perpetrators actually take CC information or was it just a breach?

[Ninja Prime]

Originally Posted by MUYA

I Did the perpetrators actually take CC information or was it just a breach?

"We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating."

Thats the best answer for now, so probably not, but maybe.

[munkus]

The CC info was encrypted, so even if they did get it, without the key it's useless.

Of course, I shouldn't underestimate hackers.

[Sean_W]

Unfortunately it's a modern day fact of life now. The blame lands fully with the crackers because no system is ever 100% safe.

[Albo]

Awe ****.