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Old 01-12-12, 04:37 PM   #37
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I don't know the codenames for keplar very well but if you're referring to the GeForce 680, it'll be considerably faster than the 7970. nVidia does have a history of nearly doubling previous generation performance. GTX 480 was almost double what the GTX 280 delivered, GTX 280 was almost double the 8800GTX, so on and so forth. When nVidia goes from one generation to the next they are pretty good about doubling the performance.

However I'm sure AMD has a refresh in the works that'll launch not too long after Kepler's top-end part (within a month or so) that'll be able to keep up. It's going to be an odd, but interesting, year.
GK104 is suppose to be Fermi G114 replacement (560TI flavors, except 448core), lol one leak said it will feature 768cores, other 1536, then 1000, but now 576cores
http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-700

this was the funniest leak yet, check at GK100 - 580gtx replacement and GK104 specifications


Then this
http://en.expreview.com/2011/12/21/n...ted/19764.html

and now this (bratwurst in the background lol xD)





I hope im wrong about that driver level part, though.

Rollo nvidia representative here is a really good advice, tell Nvidia that they shouldn't be so cheap when designing this "cheaper" GK104 version, dont push everything on driver (Fermi G104/114 version was bad enough ), im sure your lovely customers will pay 10-20$ more in favor to have less software driver trouble, I know I would.. hehe that's why I went with this 570gtx in the first place
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Old 01-12-12, 06:13 PM   #38
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ATi cards always end up in second place, but I don't care! They're WINNING! NVIDIA picked a fight with a WARLOCK! The 7970 has adonis DNA and tiger blood!


NP, I think you, K007, iSpy, and Roadhog should buy as many 7970s as you can afford, and as soon as you can.

Everyone else, trust me and wait.
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Old 01-12-12, 07:27 PM   #39
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NP, I think you, K007, iSpy, and Roadhog should buy as many 7970s as you can afford, and as soon as you can.

Everyone else, trust me and wait.


why? I will skip all these 28nm newborns and wait for a 28nm refresh aka nv800 and amd8000 series.


I have enough power in this OC'ed 570gtx until then lol its basically a OC'ed 580gtx ~860-875mhz..
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Old 01-12-12, 07:48 PM   #40
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NP, I think you, K007, iSpy, and Roadhog should buy as many 7970s as you can afford, and as soon as you can.

Everyone else, trust me and wait.
Couldn't answer the question? Its cool, I'll take this as your submission.
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Couldn't answer the question? Its cool, I'll take this as your submission.
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=92655

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Default Re: next gen kepler to support dx 11.1, also take a year to rollout all cards

I'm not sure what I will do this time around I'm selling my 6970s now so I can get the most out of them. I might take a look at a couple of 7950s as a replacement...pretty much knowing they will clock good.

If the GK-104 comes on the 31st, that will be an option too. I would really like to go NV this time around, but I just cant wait until March/April http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-k...nly/14538.html

Hell...I'd even consider a 7990 if its decent
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Looks like Kepler is going to compete with the 7950 for sure.

http://en.expreview.com/2012/01/14/k...ory/20327.html

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Looks like Kepler is going to compete with the 7950 for sure.

http://en.expreview.com/2012/01/14/k...ory/20327.html
Interesting....if the GK104 is about 5-10% behind 7950 then prices will go down..if nvidia markets it at a aggressive low pricing.
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Turns out the well informed source was his goldfish
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No, I've played your little game, your way, and you still lost. 8800 --> 280 and 285 --> 480 are as major generations as you get, and they were on par with the 7970, which you are crying is not enough. Even more, compared to the figure you quote, 16%, which is against the competition, NVs last two generations fair worse than the card in question. What you don't have some witty viral marketing response already pre-cooked up for you for this one?
It depends! On what site or what type of metrics the sites use. Over-all gauges are clearly not the end-all-be-all but one site, for me, offers a solid gauge and that is ComputerBase.

2560 x 1600 x4 AA -- 8800 Ultra vs 280 GTX 50 percent.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...ting_qualitaet

2560 x 1600 x4 AA --- 285 GTX vs GTX 480 67 percent.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...ting_qualitaet

2560 x 1600 x4 AA ---- HD 6970 vs HD 7970 42 percent

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...stung_mit_aaaf

Considering the move to 28 nm from 40 nm is substantial and significant the performance isn't for the HD 7970 but the performance is still welcomed and respectable. However, since the die is actually smaller, this may be the first time in GPU history that the MSRP percentage increase was actually higher than the performance increase. Execution has its rewards and AMD may be much more of a predator and aggressor this time and simply may take advantage by charging premiums based on the todays pricing of the GTX 580 -- an older -- year old -- 40nm, heavily premium priced sku. The GTX 580 is now the objective barometer of pricing when it was insane to buy one from the value minded, more logical choice that was the HD 6950 and 6970 for some. It seems not only did AMD do a 180 but many of their fans as well.
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It depends! On what site or what type of metrics the sites use. Over-all gauges are clearly not the end-all-be-all but one site, for me, offers a solid gauge and that is ComputerBase.

2560 x 1600 x4 AA -- 8800 Ultra vs 280 GTX 50 percent.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...ting_qualitaet

2560 x 1600 x4 AA --- 285 GTX vs GTX 480 67 percent.

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...ting_qualitaet

2560 x 1600 x4 AA ---- HD 6970 vs HD 7970 42 percent

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/g...stung_mit_aaaf

Considering the move to 28 nm from 40 nm is substantial and significant the performance isn't for the HD 7970 but the performance is still welcomed and respectable. However, since the die is actually smaller, this may be the first time in GPU history that the MSRP percentage increase was actually higher than the performance increase. Execution has its rewards and AMD may be much more of a predator and aggressor this time and simply may take advantage by charging premiums based on the todays pricing of the GTX 580 -- an older -- year old -- 40nm, heavily premium priced sku. The GTX 580 is now the objective barometer of pricing when it was insane to buy one from the value minded, more logical choice that was the HD 6950 and 6970 for some. It seems not only did AMD do a 180 but many of their fans as well.
The point was I used the same site he used and the same metric.
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Turns out the well informed source was his goldfish
I hope so. 2Gb, just won't cut it IMO. If it's not 3Gb, then i'm going ATI next round.
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