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Old 01-16-12, 03:47 PM   #61
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Ahh, so you're saying NVs "high end Kepler based part" only just equals the 7970? Does that make it the same failure that you say 7970 was, in fact, doesnt that make it worse, considering relative to NVs own last high end generation, its only 16% faster?


It's no worse that than when ATI released the HD4870 a few weeks before Nvidia released the GTX280 at a much higher price point, only to be forced to lower the price of the GTX280 merely 4 weeks after it was launched( by 150$ no less), when both were compared together and the performance difference between both was minimal....Even Nvidia's CEO was surprised how well the HD4870 turned out performance wise, and it was using a GPU with 500 million fewer transistors(956 million for the RV770 versus 1.4 billion for the GTX 280).


Say what you will about driver issues, but at the hardware level, and for a given transistor budget, ATI/AMD high end GPU's haven't been beat in the last 4+ years, at least not by an Nvidia GPU with the same transistor budget and running at the same clocks, and their latest release now packs 4.3 billion and can run upwards of 1.1 Ghz once overclocked, so an XT edition with higher clocks as soon as Kepler is released isn't out of the question here...Just something to worry nvidia a little more....
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similar to 7970.....hmm i was expecting it to be a lot faster :/..
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Old 01-16-12, 03:55 PM   #63
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Gonna have to call the user error card on that one...

I just installed COD because I was curious if what you said was true... And well, It installed and ran just fine for me. That's even with some beta drivers and 3 7970's... Don't see how you had a problem with mature drivers and a single gpu.

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tbh..i've rarely had issues with driver/ati, same for nviadia as well.

it all comes down to making sure u read up on the driver and install correctly.

the only reason i went and got a 4870 at the time from my 7950gx2 was the price. the ati price/perfermance was so much better offer than nvidia had, and i think it was the gtx200 time..
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similar to 7970.....hmm i was expecting it to be a lot faster :/..
Me too...Is Chiphell a reliable source though ?
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Old 01-16-12, 04:18 PM   #65
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Me too...Is Chiphell a reliable source though ?

They've leaked a lot of information with regards to GPU's over the past decade and are pretty accurate the vast majority of the times, so they have pretty good sources to make the claims they do...Heck i can't remember when they've claimed something that was flat out wrong like semi accurate or fudzilla do on a routine basis.
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They've leaked a lot of information with regards to GPU's over the past decade and are pretty accurate the vast majority of the times, so they have pretty good sources to make the claims they do...Heck i can't remember when they've claimed something that was flat out wrong like semi accurate or fudzilla do on a routine basis.
Wow this is gonna get interesting in the next month or so.
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I don't know that theres anything on a single monitor yet that can use more than 2Gb, IIRC, Crysis 2 fully updated to DX11 with the texture pack can only use 1.86Gb with 8x AA. There might be some games later this year though maybe.

Of course, if you're multi-monitor then yeah its a big deal.
Check out the vram used here..unless MSI AB is reporting it wrong idk.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1666109
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My prediction ,...

It will go neck and neck with 7950 or land somewhere in between 7950-7970, sometimes beat 7970 in TWIMTBP titles.

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guess i wasnt that far off
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Nvidia is set to release several 28nm Kepler-based GPUs including GK104, which will replace the existing GeForce GTX 560Ti; GK107, targeting the entry-level PC market; GK106, targeting the mid-range to entry-level market; GK110, which is equipped with two GK104 GPUs; and the highest-end GK112, which may be released in the fourth quarter or 2013.
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What the hell has nvidia been doing....
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What the hell has nvidia been doing....
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Just dominating their competition.

1. 7 of top 10 video cards are NVIDIA
2. The GTX470 and GTX570 outsold the HD6950
3. The GTX480 and the GTX580 outsold the HD6970
4. The GTX460 sold more than the 6870, 6970, and 6950 combined
5. The GTX560 sold more than the 6870.
6. NVIDIA 58%, ATi 36%
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