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Old 03-09-12, 10:58 AM   #25
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I am really not impressed. What these reviews fail to show are Crossfire troubles. Infact i am impressed by GTX580. 3 Years old Fermi still keeping up and AMD took 3 Generations to get it right.
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Old 03-09-12, 01:56 PM   #26
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That's a shame But not surprising at all to me. It's just sad that my experience with ATI drivers two year ago is still the same as today's for current AMD customers.
I have HD6970 Crossfire Setup and i am exhausted by looking for right drivers. I only play Skyrim and game jerks in indoor areas and there are lot of texture flickerings. I really wanted to give a try and bought AMD cards but as i said it is getting old. Kepler needs to be released ASAP!
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Old 03-09-12, 09:06 PM   #27
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That's a shame But not surprising at all to me. It's just sad that my experience with ATI drivers two year ago is still the same as today's for current AMD customers.
They haven't changed much.

I keep wondering why I give them chance after chance after having lots of problems over the past 3 gens.

Despite what the numbers may say in the reviews they don't tell the whole story.

With Crossfire 7950s I was getting around 55 fps in Skyrim with 4xSSAA with the HD4k texture mod enabled, tree shadows enabled, and shadow maps at 8194 when in thick forests.

On my 570 SLI setup (2.5GB) I'm getting that on a single 570 and around 90fps when in SLI at the same location.

And I know that Crossfire was scaling because it did play smoother than on a single 7950.. that is until the next screen loaded and it would stutter like crazy. I had to alt-tab every 5 minutes to keep it running smoothly.

Edit: Sorry.. I don't mean to derail the thread. Just felt compelled to warn some of you based on my experience with them.
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They haven't changed much.

I keep wondering why I give them chance after chance after having lots of problems over the past 3 gens.

Despite what the numbers may say in the reviews they don't tell the whole story.

With Crossfire 7950s I was getting around 55 fps in Skyrim with 4xSSAA with the HD4k texture mod enabled, tree shadows enabled, and shadow maps at 8194 when in thick forests.

On my 570 SLI setup (2.5GB) I'm getting that on a single 570 and around 90fps when in SLI at the same location.

And I know that Crossfire was scaling because it did play smoother than on a single 7950.. that is until the next screen loaded and it would stutter like crazy. I had to alt-tab every 5 minutes to keep it running smoothly.

Edit: Sorry.. I don't mean to derail the thread. Just felt compelled to warn some of you based on my experience with them.
And nVidia's drivers are perfect when they launch new hardware?

I've never used CrossFire only SLi and my experience with SLi has all been superb. My only complaints about AMD's drivers are they don't have very good support for older games. Went to fire up CoD:AA the other day and it keeps crashing. Had the same problem when I first got my 5770 and had to go back to a really old driver to get the game to work. Kind of a pain.

Otherwise I've been extremely pleased with AMD.
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Old 03-10-12, 09:39 AM   #29
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I didn't know this was a gripe thread about ATI drivers for Nvidia fans.
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Old 03-10-12, 09:47 AM   #30
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And nVidia's drivers are perfect when they launch new hardware?
Please don't put words into my mouth; I didn't say that.

Nvidia's drivers are not perfect, but from my experience they're much better than AMD's. I think I have a right to that opinion after owning a 2900XT, 4870 Crossfire, 4870X2 quad crossfire, 4890 crossfire, 5970 quad crossfire and 7950 crossfire and then from Nvidia a 7900GTX, 8800GTX SLI, GTX275 SLI and now GTX570 SLI. I have plenty of experience with both camps.

There's always a risk with being an early adopter, and I understand that. In fact I've resigned myself now to never be an early adopter again as I'm tired of playing beta tester. But the 7-series drivers at this point are in clear beta. I've never seen so many bugs on a launch. That card should not even be on the market right now until they work some of the driver bugs out.
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I didn't know this was a gripe thread about ATI drivers for Nvidia fans.
I'm not an "Nvidia fan," Vin. You should know this as I've been on this forum for a long time sporting setups from both camps. Look in my post above and you can see what all graphics configurations I've owned over the years.

I just feel that anyone who's looking to invest their hard-earned money into the 7-series has a right to know what the current status of the drivers are.

I'm sure they'll get better, but right now they're not in a good state.

I won't say anything else as I didn't mean to sidetrack the discussion. Just trying to help by offering some first-hand experience with the topic at hand.
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Xion X2 is >not< an nVidia fan boy.

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Only issue i've had with mine is when I went to 12.2 pre release and got a bsod while watching flash and running an OpenCL app. Other than that they worked fine for what I do. That one bug however was enough to cause me to roll back to 11.12 RC11 which also works fine for what I do.

Also, if you are running 12.2 pre with anything other than MSI afterburner Beta14 you will have constant stability issues and crashes.
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Never meant to imply that Xion was a fanboy.

Just seemed odd that he'd complain about early drivers for a new architecture from AMD. That initial post seemed a tad one-sided. However his follow-up post in response to me makes more sense. Both companies suffer driver issues when launching a new product, as he stated.
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I'm not an "Nvidia fan," Vin. You should know this as I've been on this forum for a long time sporting setups from both camps. Look in my post above and you can see what all graphics configurations I've owned over the years.

I just feel that anyone who's looking to invest their hard-earned money into the 7-series has a right to know what the current status of the drivers are.

I'm sure they'll get better, but right now they're not in a good state.

I won't say anything else as I didn't mean to sidetrack the discussion. Just trying to help by offering some first-hand experience with the topic at hand.
My comment was plural: fans. You, slawter, and red are posting about drivers for different cards in a thread about the 7800 series. If you want to inform people, then please do it in the correct thread/subforum.
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My comment was plural: fans. You, slawter, and red are posting about drivers for different cards in a thread about the 7800 series. If you want to inform people, then please do it in the correct thread/subforum.
The 7800 series will use the same drivers the 7950 does which is why I posted that in this thread. Felt it was relevant to the cards/purchase.
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