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Old 10-17-04, 11:01 PM   #13
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kahloq, old boy, I think I've hit upon a rather spiffing idea that could reduce the level of misinformation in these parts. We could start a compendium of review, gathering all data that has been published, and then generate honest, unbiased opinions on the matter.

How about it, eh? Or has that already been done? I'm too lazy to search.
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Old 10-17-04, 11:04 PM   #14
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A nice database comprising of multiple site's results concerning the last few generations of vid cards with numerical averages as well would be a great idea. Except, lol, who's gonna spend the time to do it? I have college classes and full time job, so it won't be me
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Old 10-17-04, 11:04 PM   #15
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kahloq, old boy, I think I've hit upon a rather spiffing idea that could reduce the level of misinformation in these parts. We could start a compendium of review, gathering all data that has been published, and then generate honest, unbiased opinions on the matter.

How about it, eh? Or has that already been done? I'm too lazy to search.

This is getting way off topic. We need to ether get back on topic or start a new thread.

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A nice database comprising of multiple site's results concerning the last few generations of vid cards with numerical averages as well would be a great idea. Except, lol, who's gonna spend the time to do it? I have college classes and full time job, so it won't be me
I don't have school tomorrow. I'll do the research. Anyways, we need a new thread.
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Old 10-17-04, 11:05 PM   #16
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Id recommend a 6800nu ~300 but they perform see sig
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Old 10-17-04, 11:15 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the advice and replies. Unfortunately, I doubt an ATi 9800 Pro will work for my son as much as I wish that it would. I bought one about 4 months ago as an upgrade and could not get it to work properly (possibly because of the overclock I have on that system and the inability to change the AGP bus ratio). It would lockup after a short period of time in nearly every game I threw at it.

However, the Ti4200 in that system has worked flawlessly for 2+ years now. I wish the 9800 Pro would work, but I tried everything short of eliminating the overclock (because it would negate the system speed too much). I tried several re-format and re-installations and different Catalyst driver sets, but no go. Thus, I may be "stuck" with the Ti4200 on that system.

I guess I will just see if I can get a Ti4200 off of Ebay on the cheap for my wife's system. Then maybe build a new system for my son for Christmas...

One more question: Even if the Ti4200 is only DX 8.1 compliant it will still run fine with games that require DX 9.0c correct? Just won't have all the features supported?
Well I can't say it will run fine. It will play the games, but the performance will suffer. I had ti 4600 in my sons computer a little while ago and it played UT2004 just fine. Yes it wont show features that dx9 supports, but should play the game, but over 800x600 resolution, your going to run into serious issues with lag.
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Old 10-17-04, 11:29 PM   #18
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rofl.....I love threads like this....they never fail to cease.....one guy asks a simple question and it turns into a flame war over cards.
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No, nvidia is losing because the FX really sucks at PS2.0. I can't believe people still argue about this. It has been proven over and over again.

Read my whole post. To back up what I said about the the FX 5200 and 5700LE I used UT2003 not Half Life 2. I provided proof that the Geforce 3 Ti 500 is faster than the 5200 and the Ti 4200 is faster than the 5700LE.
I didn't say that you were wrong. Oh and BTW i wasn't talking about poor PS2.0 performance. I was referring to the fact the the FX series should be pulling in a decent framerate in dx9 hl2 seeing as farcry is playable on it and it uses many more shaders than hl2. Shaders shouldn't have that much of an effect on the fx series within HL2. As i stated before Valve is in bed with ATi, so that in effect leaves the nvidia drivers compliance with very little if any support whatsoever. As for the other part of your argument, i do realise that the Ti500 is faster than the 5200 and the 4200 is faster than the 5700LE. i just find it a little pissy that us (the people with the high end FX cards) are left with last generation graphics because of ATi trying to improve it's sales over Nvidia. DAMN YOU ATI! DON'T TAKE IT OUT ON THE GAMERS!
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