xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d

how · 01-20-05, 12:53 AM

I have found all version of Nvidia driver have slow 2D in desktop window resizing and dragging. may be the only quick version would be 3123 where XAA is still used. 2D hasn't improved. If Nvidia disagrees please give benchmark of xorg vs nvidia.

I like to try Xig (Accelerated-X) benchmarked to be the fastest 2D even outperform windows, but they do not support nvidia cards as nvidia does not release any information.

Spyke · 01-20-05, 03:18 AM

I've only noticed HORRIBLY slow 2d when there is a 3d application running. This is surely a bug.

how · 01-20-05, 04:42 AM

actually somethings are faster with nvidia 2D. I just notice acroread is faster with Nvidia than Xorg. I also notice resizing windows is slow with gtk apps with Nvidia. eg. firefox, gedit.

Spyke · 01-20-05, 08:22 AM

Do you have renderaccel enabled? I find that makes a big difference.

mr_ed · 01-20-05, 04:53 PM

I've noticed the same thing - anything 3d is as fast as you'd expect, but 2d is horribly slow!

Opera seems to be the worst offender (probably the skins!) but dragging any window about lags a fair bit...

I'm using a GF4 MX4000 with 6629 drivers on an AMD64 running Fedora Core 3 (KDE desktop)
I've tried with/without renderaccel and various AGP options with no change... even tried the old trusty GF2 MX400! Still the same...

Dropping back to the nv driver restores 2d performance, but obviously 3d dies then!

Anyone got any thoughts?

how · 01-20-05, 07:08 PM

Yes, I always had Renderaccel enabled when using Nvidia driver

mr_ed: doesn't matter what card you use the 2D will still be slow.

if you could try Accelerated-X demo with one of their supported cards
that would be great. like to see the difference in that.

01-20-05, 12:53 AM	#1
how Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 142	xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d I have found all version of Nvidia driver have slow 2D in desktop window resizing and dragging. may be the only quick version would be 3123 where XAA is still used. 2D hasn't improved. If Nvidia disagrees please give benchmark of xorg vs nvidia. I like to try Xig (Accelerated-X) benchmarked to be the fastest 2D even outperform windows, but they do not support nvidia cards as nvidia does not release any information.

01-20-05, 03:18 AM	#2
Spyke Foxie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 618	Re: xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d I've only noticed HORRIBLY slow 2d when there is a 3d application running. This is surely a bug. __________________ Gaming: Intel i7 980X @ 4GHz \| ASUS Rampage III Extreme \| GTX 480 3Way SLI @ 900Mhz \| Koolance VID-NX480 \| Corsair Obsidian 700D Corsair H70 CPU Cooler \| EK-FB RE3 \| Corsair AX1200 \| Black Ice SR1 360 \| 240GB OCZ Revodrive X2 SSD \| Windows 7 Ultimate 12GB Corsair Dominator GT @ 8-8-8-24-1T DDR3-1600 \| Onkyo TX SR-707 \| 70" Sharp Aquos LCD \| KEF Audio 5.1 C3/C6LCR/C7 Workstation: Intel i7 920 D0 @ 4GHz \| ASUS Rampage II Extreme \| GTX 480 @ 800Mhz \| Koolance VID-NX480 \| Lian-Li V1200B \| Corsair HX1000 EK NB ASUS HP \| Watercool HeatKiller 3.0 \| Feser Extreme X-360 \| 2x160GB Intel X25-M SSD RAID0 \| 4x2TB WD20EARS RAID10 12GB Corsair Dominator @ 8-8-8-24-1T DDR3-1600 \| Creative X-Fi Titanium \| Pioneer DVR-212D \| Gentoo Linux Dell 3008WFP \| JohnBlue JB3 \| CityPulse DA2.03e II DAC \| KingRex T20U w/ Modded Auricaps & PSU \| Glow Audio Sub One Server: Quad Socket Opteron 8356 (16 cores) @ 2.3GHz \| Supermicro H8QMi-2 \| Supermicro 2U Chassis \| Redundant 1200W PSU 32GB 2GBx16 DDR2-667 ECC \| 4x 300GB Cheetah SAS RAID10 \| Adaptec 5805 512MB w/BBU \| Colocated \| Gentoo Linux

01-20-05, 04:42 AM	#3
how Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 142	Re: xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d actually somethings are faster with nvidia 2D. I just notice acroread is faster with Nvidia than Xorg. I also notice resizing windows is slow with gtk apps with Nvidia. eg. firefox, gedit.

01-20-05, 08:22 AM	#4
Spyke Foxie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 618	Re: xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d Do you have renderaccel enabled? I find that makes a big difference. __________________ Gaming: Intel i7 980X @ 4GHz \| ASUS Rampage III Extreme \| GTX 480 3Way SLI @ 900Mhz \| Koolance VID-NX480 \| Corsair Obsidian 700D Corsair H70 CPU Cooler \| EK-FB RE3 \| Corsair AX1200 \| Black Ice SR1 360 \| 240GB OCZ Revodrive X2 SSD \| Windows 7 Ultimate 12GB Corsair Dominator GT @ 8-8-8-24-1T DDR3-1600 \| Onkyo TX SR-707 \| 70" Sharp Aquos LCD \| KEF Audio 5.1 C3/C6LCR/C7 Workstation: Intel i7 920 D0 @ 4GHz \| ASUS Rampage II Extreme \| GTX 480 @ 800Mhz \| Koolance VID-NX480 \| Lian-Li V1200B \| Corsair HX1000 EK NB ASUS HP \| Watercool HeatKiller 3.0 \| Feser Extreme X-360 \| 2x160GB Intel X25-M SSD RAID0 \| 4x2TB WD20EARS RAID10 12GB Corsair Dominator @ 8-8-8-24-1T DDR3-1600 \| Creative X-Fi Titanium \| Pioneer DVR-212D \| Gentoo Linux Dell 3008WFP \| JohnBlue JB3 \| CityPulse DA2.03e II DAC \| KingRex T20U w/ Modded Auricaps & PSU \| Glow Audio Sub One Server: Quad Socket Opteron 8356 (16 cores) @ 2.3GHz \| Supermicro H8QMi-2 \| Supermicro 2U Chassis \| Redundant 1200W PSU 32GB 2GBx16 DDR2-667 ECC \| 4x 300GB Cheetah SAS RAID10 \| Adaptec 5805 512MB w/BBU \| Colocated \| Gentoo Linux

01-20-05, 04:53 PM	#5
mr_ed Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1	Re: xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d I've noticed the same thing - anything 3d is as fast as you'd expect, but 2d is horribly slow! Opera seems to be the worst offender (probably the skins!) but dragging any window about lags a fair bit... I'm using a GF4 MX4000 with 6629 drivers on an AMD64 running Fedora Core 3 (KDE desktop) I've tried with/without renderaccel and various AGP options with no change... even tried the old trusty GF2 MX400! Still the same... Dropping back to the nv driver restores 2d performance, but obviously 3d dies then! Anyone got any thoughts?

01-20-05, 07:08 PM	#6
how Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 142	Re: xorg 2d is more superior than nvidia 2d Yes, I always had Renderaccel enabled when using Nvidia driver mr_ed: doesn't matter what card you use the 2D will still be slow. if you could try Accelerated-X demo with one of their supported cards that would be great. like to see the difference in that.

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