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Old 12-21-05, 03:14 PM   #13
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Default Re: 6600gt Agp Vs Fx5900 Ultra Agp

A12ctic - I see your edit, and those benches are with no AA/AF, which mirror my results.

No AA/AF puts the X800GTO slightly ahead of the 6600Gt. Add AA/AF, and the 6600GT falls way behind.
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Old 12-21-05, 03:36 PM   #14
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A12ctic - I see your edit, and those benches are with no AA/AF, which mirror my results.

No AA/AF puts the X800GTO slightly ahead of the 6600Gt. Add AA/AF, and the 6600GT falls way behind.
I dont really notice a difference with AA/AF i know im gona get flamed for this but imo its not a big difference... especaily in close quarter rooms, and the best engine out right now (doom 3) runs MUCH beter on nvidia cards so i would go nvidia anyway even if i was just playing stuff based on the source engine...
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Old 12-21-05, 04:21 PM   #15
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if u play hl2, get an nvidia card, or else u cant see the hdr lighting in some maps....unless u get an x1800....which u arent getting lol
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Old 12-21-05, 04:25 PM   #16
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You won't get flamed, not from me I agree that AA makes a small, but appreciable difference. The difference gets smaller and smaller the higher up you go in resolution.

However, for me anyway, AF makes a huge difference I'll play without AA before I continue dropping below 8x AF.

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and the best engine out right now (doom 3) runs MUCH beter on nvidia cards so i would go nvidia anyway even if i was just playing stuff based on the source engine...
Actually, I would have to disagree here. It doesn't matter how good the Doom 3 engine is, if you ONLY play Source engine games, you should get the card that runs the Source engine best. Honestly, how does the Doom3 engine factor in if you're ONLY playing games that don't run it? E-penis size?

My point stands. The original poster said that he mainly plays CS:S and HL2. If that is the case, then the X800GTO is a far better buy in his price range than a 6600GT. If his game playing is in fact more balanced, then I'd consider the 6600GT. But with AA/AF turned on, those are some sickening differences in HL2.

I apologize if I am coming across as an ATI fanboy. Believe me, I get the same response over at Rage3D whenever I recommend a 6800GS I'm an advocate of best bang for the buck in a person's price range, regardless of the brand.

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if u play hl2, get an nvidia card, or else u cant see the hdr lighting in some maps....unless u get an x1800....which u arent getting lol
HDR on a 6600 series card = slideshow.
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You won't get flamed, not from me I agree that AA makes a small, but appreciable difference. The difference gets smaller and smaller the higher up you go in resolution.

However, for me anyway, AF makes a huge difference I'll play without AA before I continue dropping below 8x AF.



Actually, I would have to disagree here. It doesn't matter how good the Doom 3 engine is, if you ONLY play Source engine games, you should get the card that runs the Source engine best. Honestly, how does the Doom3 engine factor in if you're ONLY playing games that don't run it? E-penis size?

My point stands. The original poster said that he mainly plays CS:S and HL2. If that is the case, then the X800GTO is a far better buy in his price range than a 6600GT. If his game playing is in fact more balanced, then I'd consider the 6600GT. But with AA/AF turned on, those are some sickening differences in HL2.

I apologize if I am coming across as an ATI fanboy. Believe me, I get the same response over at Rage3D whenever I recommend a 6800GS I'm an advocate of best bang for the buck in a person's price range, regardless of the brand.



HDR on a 6600 series card = slideshow.
not coming out for a fanboy ;-) , its me thats fanboyish :-p
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Old 12-22-05, 12:29 AM   #18
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wow, that's a wicked 6800, my guess is that they are getting the 6800 ultra rejects also, and i'd go with the 6800 non-ultra as well, it's better than both, and around the same price, however, if you had only those 2 as an option, go with the 6600 GT, it's bound to perform better in dx9 titles, and it has ps3.0 not just 2.0 like the 5900 ultra, which actually doesn't have true 2.0 support and actually runs games horribly, most games (far cry, hl2, cs:s, halo) default to ps1.1 or ps1.4 with the 5900 ultra, basically, stay away from it, it was good in it's day, but not now

and no, the X700 pro isn't as good, my friend has one and it was on par with my 5900 ultra, and slightly worse than a 6600 GT
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however after looking at the reviews, that apollo board is rubbish, just bad cores from 6800 ultras, i wouldn't touch it, go for a 6800 GS if they really ever are released in AGP, that'd be your best option, or the 6600 GT
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