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Old 08-08-06, 07:02 AM   #13
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Default Re: RenderAccel, Xorg 7.1, nvidia... soon, I hope?

I don't work for nvidia so I don't about dates, but I think 9xxx will be out somewhere this year. If I would guess I think it comes out in september but that's a pure guess.

How does the driver release influence the buying decision? The 8xxx version will let xorg 7.1 work at the same level as it works on ati hardware. They don't support the texture from pixmap extension either.
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Old 08-08-06, 12:08 PM   #14
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Default Re: RenderAccel, Xorg 7.1, nvidia... soon, I hope?

Hi,

I want to point out that Xorg 7.1 itself went through an extensive RC process which NVIDIA were obviously involved in. Indeed, Andy Ritger of NVIDIA successfully persuaded the Xorg devs to not cause unnecessary ABI changes. This Xorg "beta" process lasted for many months. The Xorg 7.1 release is _stable_, and starting to be shipped by major distributions. It is not a "beta". It is not unreasonable to have supported this when it was released, either.

As consumers we are surprisingly powerless to do anything to convince NVIDIA to adopt a semi-reasonable release schedule. The open source methodology "release early, release often" is blissfully ignored by NVIDIA.

But do not make the mistake or excuse that it is "reasonable" to not support an Xorg release >1 week after release. If NVIDIA want to show they're serious, they should be able to provide the small number of man-hours required to bring the driver ABI in sync with Xorg 7.1. We're not asking for additional features, just customer support.

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Old 08-08-06, 12:08 PM   #15
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Old 08-08-06, 12:37 PM   #16
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How does the driver release influence the buying decision? The 8xxx version will let xorg 7.1 work at the same level as it works on ati hardware. They don't support the texture from pixmap extension either.
This is not true. Despite the fact that you need to force the ABI on some distros' builds of X, the 2D acceleration architecture is broken beyond repair. Development versions of Gtk+ do not work (used by Fedora Core), even with subpixel hinting enabled. Wine does not work, or anything that uses XRENDER directly. KDE does work, mystically, but only with subpixel hinting, which is not ideal.
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