Invisible Camouflage

LiquidX · 08-18-04, 01:21 AM

This is reaching to the level of what we see in movies and I always wonderd when we would see something like this. This company is working on invisbility camouflage or optical camouflage. It allows you to be partialy invisible with a video camera recording the real-life scenery behind the subject, transmitting that image to a front-mounted projector, which then displays the scene on the reflective material. Can you imagine this this think in a few years and in military use? Hidden jets, hidden ops. Neat! Same technology that was featured in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.

The videos are pretty cool.
http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html

Edit-
Time Magazine article.
http://www.time.com/time/2003/invent...invisible.html

Mr. Hunt · 08-18-04, 04:13 AM

It will be way more than a few years before it will have much military use, at least I think so.

de><ta · 08-18-04, 10:48 AM

What they do not tell you is that you need an external projector and video recorder to get this so called illusion working.

Oh and btw.

Kamel · 08-18-04, 04:27 PM

i saw a special on this a long time ago... it was mentioning the possibility of putting many fiber optics cables on a tank that leads to the same spot on the opposite side, making it look as if it didn't exist.

if i were guessing, it probably has been in the military for a long time, just has been classified info, heh.

**CaptNKILL** · 08-18-04, 07:10 PM

Why dont they just use cruise missiles? I think research into more efficient, more accurate and more reliable super long range weapons would be a lot better because this kind of thing would have to be PERFECT to even be worth it. And it doesnt make a whole lot of sense... arent most covert missions at night when something like this wouldnt be needed anyway?

All in all, it sounds cool (as it did the first time I heard about this like 4 years ago :P) but its pointless. What if it malfunctioned and your whole squad was trained to be invisible then all the sudden they werent? "there they are... Im glad they cant see us... hey why isnt yours working?" *pop pop pop* *dead*

ALobpreis · 08-18-04, 07:58 PM

It was posted before, and I keep thinking it's totally fake.
There's this video where the guy shows an "invisible" ball, which lets you see the background of the scene... what I don't get is why is HE also transparent... chroma effect, maybe??

Edit: link

LiquidX · 08-19-04, 12:21 AM

I see what your saying after checking out the video ALobpreis but it looks too home made and generic to be fake and remember everything behind the subject is whats projected to give the illusion of being invisable.

AthlonXP1800 · 08-20-04, 01:25 AM

Yes these Invisible Camouflage videos were 2 years ago, it still not perfect, it not very good if special troops weared it and terrorists can see and kill them easy.

Few months ago US Military dream of Star Trek's cloaking devices on Federation Defiant, Klingon Bird of Prey and Romulan Warbird that cloaked perfect and 100% invisible has became reality, they demorated the cloaking technology with a building, it showed pics of the building before it cloaked and after cloaked. It cloaked perfect after matched Star Trek's cloaking technology. The cloaking technology US Military tested are all relied with onboard processors, it far more advanced technlogy, it require processors to rendering cloaking to shaping perfect, if without processors to rendering, the building will look like it made by glass. Next few years the technology will continue to improve and will be use in applications, not just useful for the building, it will be apply to sealth fighters, spy drones, spy planes and satellites in space that will be utter impossbile to shoot down by powerful laser if rogue countries or North Korea and China develop one in near future.

de><ta · 08-20-04, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALobpreis

It was posted before, and I keep thinking it's totally fake.
There's this video where the guy shows an "invisible" ball, which lets you see the background of the scene... what I don't get is why is HE also transparent... chroma effect, maybe??

Edit: link

The ball is not supposed to be invisible :P

If you want an invisible ball make one from clear plastic.

The purpose of this invisibility kind of technology is to cloak or conceal something. In this case the ball is concealing / cloaking the guy behind it.

ALobpreis · 08-21-04, 12:17 AM

If we were standing next to the camera.... would we had seen the ball and the guy? Or the background, as we see in the video??

08-18-04, 01:21 AM	#1
LiquidX xxxxxxx Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,792	Invisible Camouflage This is reaching to the level of what we see in movies and I always wonderd when we would see something like this. This company is working on invisbility camouflage or optical camouflage. It allows you to be partialy invisible with a video camera recording the real-life scenery behind the subject, transmitting that image to a front-mounted projector, which then displays the scene on the reflective material. Can you imagine this this think in a few years and in military use? Hidden jets, hidden ops. Neat! Same technology that was featured in Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. The videos are pretty cool. http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html Edit- Time Magazine article. http://www.time.com/time/2003/invent...invisible.html Last edited by LiquidX; 08-18-04 at 10:42 AM.

08-18-04, 04:13 AM	#2
Mr. Hunt Charles F'ing Bronson Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 6,962	Re: Invisible Camouflage It will be way more than a few years before it will have much military use, at least I think so.

08-18-04, 10:48 AM	#3
de><ta prodigy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA, NY Posts: 2,725	Re: Invisible Camouflage What they do not tell you is that you need an external projector and video recorder to get this so called illusion working. Oh and btw. __________________ IBM T60p \| Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 \| 2GB PC2-5300 \| ATi M X1700 256MB \| 100GB 7200rpm SATA ///m-powered \| Intel i7 920 \| EVGA x58 \| 6GB DD3 1600 \| EVGA GTX 285 SSC \| 150GB VelociRaptor Drag racing is for fast cars. Autocrossing is for fast drivers.

08-18-04, 04:27 PM	#4
Kamel Hardware Mass Murderer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,232	Re: Invisible Camouflage i saw a special on this a long time ago... it was mentioning the possibility of putting many fiber optics cables on a tank that leads to the same spot on the opposite side, making it look as if it didn't exist. if i were guessing, it probably has been in the military for a long time, just has been classified info, heh. __________________ hardware murdered so far: geforce 5900u, deceised: sat on it. geforce 6600gt deceised: improperly mounted heatsink. 3 asus a7n8x-e deluxe motherboards, deceised: unsure. mobile amd xp2600 processor, deceised: chipped core due to compusa heatsink. dfi lanparty ultra b, deceised: unsure, third memory bank went out. samsung cd burner 48x40x48, deceised: unsure, will only read pressed cd's very slowly. samsung TH552C dvd burner (dual layer), deceised: same as other samsung . 10gb seagate 5200rpm drive, deceised: tried fixing a pin that was pushed into the drive by inserting an ide cable upside down. 40gb maxtor drive, deceised: maxtor manufacturer. 80gb western digital, deceised: unnatural causes. swan xt10, deceised: brutal pre-meditated murder, even video taped (it wasn't y2k compliant). logitech mx510, deceised: death by electricution. ati remote wonder, deceised: death by electricution.

08-18-04, 07:10 PM	#5
CaptNKILL CUBE Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 35,379	Re: Invisible Camouflage Why dont they just use cruise missiles? I think research into more efficient, more accurate and more reliable super long range weapons would be a lot better because this kind of thing would have to be PERFECT to even be worth it. And it doesnt make a whole lot of sense... arent most covert missions at night when something like this wouldnt be needed anyway? All in all, it sounds cool (as it did the first time I heard about this like 4 years ago :P) but its pointless. What if it malfunctioned and your whole squad was trained to be invisible then all the sudden they werent? "there they are... Im glad they cant see us... hey why isnt yours working?" pop pop pop dead __________________ ---- Primary Rig ---- Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz + Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme 6GB DDR2 @ 942Mhz 5-5-5-20 1.9v (2x1Gb Wintec AMPX PC2-8500 & 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-6400) - Antec P180B ATX Case - EVGA Geforce GTX 260 @ 700/1403/2206 ASUS VW266H 25.5" LCD - Seagate 7200.12 500Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.8 200Gb SATA - Galaxy Geforce 9600GT (Physx) OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU - Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic - Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Surround - Windows 7 Professional x64 ---- HTPC ---- Asus M3A78-EM 780G - AMD Athlon X2 5050e 45W @ 2.6Ghz - 2x2GB Kingston PC2-6400 DDR2 - Sparkle 350W PSU Seagate 7200.10 320Gb SATA - Seagate 7200.10 250Gb SATA - Athenatech A100BB.350 MicroATX Desktop - Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic

08-18-04, 07:58 PM	#6
ALobpreis Intringulis Popochilus Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Caballito Posts: 1,565	Re: Invisible Camouflage It was posted before, and I keep thinking it's totally fake. There's this video where the guy shows an "invisible" ball, which lets you see the background of the scene... what I don't get is why is HE also transparent... chroma effect, maybe?? Edit: link __________________ "Everything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about"

08-19-04, 12:21 AM	#7
LiquidX xxxxxxx Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,792	Re: Invisible Camouflage I see what your saying after checking out the video ALobpreis but it looks too home made and generic to be fake and remember everything behind the subject is whats projected to give the illusion of being invisable.

08-20-04, 01:25 AM	#8
AthlonXP1800 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,897	Re: Invisible Camouflage Yes these Invisible Camouflage videos were 2 years ago, it still not perfect, it not very good if special troops weared it and terrorists can see and kill them easy. Few months ago US Military dream of Star Trek's cloaking devices on Federation Defiant, Klingon Bird of Prey and Romulan Warbird that cloaked perfect and 100% invisible has became reality, they demorated the cloaking technology with a building, it showed pics of the building before it cloaked and after cloaked. It cloaked perfect after matched Star Trek's cloaking technology. The cloaking technology US Military tested are all relied with onboard processors, it far more advanced technlogy, it require processors to rendering cloaking to shaping perfect, if without processors to rendering, the building will look like it made by glass. Next few years the technology will continue to improve and will be use in applications, not just useful for the building, it will be apply to sealth fighters, spy drones, spy planes and satellites in space that will be utter impossbile to shoot down by powerful laser if rogue countries or North Korea and China develop one in near future. __________________ AMD Phenom II 940, Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heatsink with Noctua S12-1200 fan, ASUS M3N72D with BIOS 1102, 8GB OCZ Platium DDR2-RAM, Pioneer DVR-217DBK 22x DVD-RW, OCZ Z Series 850W PSU, Panasonic 1.44mb 3.5inch floppy drive, Samsung 1TB SATAII hard drive, Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, CanonScan N650U scanner, Microsoft Internet Keyboard, ASDA Wheel Mouse Optical, Sirus's 2 3D speakers, 27inch Thomson Scenium 27LCDB03B Widescreen LCD TV, BFG Geforce GTX 260 OC 896MB with Geforce 190.38 driver, Motorola SURFboard SB4100 10MB Cable Modem provided by Telewest, Aspire Xplorer Midi Tower, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

08-21-04, 12:17 AM	#10
ALobpreis Intringulis Popochilus Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Caballito Posts: 1,565	Re: Invisible Camouflage If we were standing next to the camera.... would we had seen the ball and the guy? Or the background, as we see in the video?? __________________ "Everything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about"

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