Proof - Hobbits really existed

Sazar · 10-30-04, 09:30 PM

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/H...ory-37736.html

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The tiny humans may have been hunted by large lizards -- bigger versions of the Komodo dragons that still roam the island and which have been known to eat people. Most of the prehistoric fauna on Flores was believed to have been wiped out by a volcanic eruption 12,000 years ago, but local tales suggest the intriguing possibility that its race of dwarfs may have lived on.

The discovery of a skeleton of a woman barely one meter tall who hunted pygmy elephants and giant rats 18,000 years ago could rewrite the origins of humanity, scientists in Australia said Thursday.

The perfectly preserved skeleton, about as big as a modern 3-year-old and with a grapefruit-sized skull, was found in a cave on the Indonesian island of Flores, about 600 kilometers east of Bali.

The female, nicknamed the Flores Hobbit, has been identified as a completely new member of the human race in the latest edition of the journal Nature.

The skeleton of the 30-year-old woman was found by a team from Australia's University of New England and the Indonesian Center for Archaeology in Jakarta.

**CaptNKILL** · 10-30-04, 09:45 PM

Is it possible she just had that disease where people get older but never really age much? Like Gary Coleman.

Pretty interesting though... they named her a "Hobbit" and said she probably fought Comodo Dragons and giant rats... sounds like an RPG to me

Skrot · 10-30-04, 10:16 PM

Wouldn't this class as evidence, and not proof?

Sazar · 10-30-04, 10:24 PM

its supposed to be a friggin funneh...

its not conclusive proof of anything...

Son Goku · 10-30-04, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sazar

its supposed to be a friggin funneh...

Are you sure?

http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/flores/

Not sure if I would be surprised at the finding of a new species of hominid that might have existed. Unfortunately, don't know how to contact a former roomate that was an archaeology grad student. Doubt he lives on campus. He did show me some things from one of his archaeology text, including a Homo sapien about 520,000 years ago.

What he was refering to might be referenced in this page

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1997/TroyHolder.shtml

Needless to say, there were many sub-species to Homo sapiens in the fossil record which aren't in the funneh's

GlowStick · 07-07-05, 12:59 AM

Giant Rats, oh my, I belive i camped those till level 3

Otherwise, pritty cool info.

adenosine · 07-07-05, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GlowStick

Giant Rats, oh my, I belive i camped those till level 3

Otherwise, pritty cool info.

Oh my gosh those crazy role playing games .. even your grandma plays em nowadays!

DaveW · 07-07-05, 03:38 PM

Isn't it a stretch to declare the discovery of a new species of human based on just one fossil? How do they know she wasn't just a regular person with a growth deficiency, we have people like that today.

Sazar · 07-07-05, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveW

Isn't it a stretch to declare the discovery of a new species of human based on just one fossil? How do they know she wasn't just a regular person with a growth deficiency, we have people like that today.

There was an entire National Geographic article dedicated to this. It was not just one fossil and the number of other items around with differing sizes (the miniature mastadons for example) support this theory.

Son Goku · 07-07-05, 10:23 PM

Given the number of hominids who existed in the past, another species wouldn't be inconceivable. Too bad I'm not sure how to get ahold of that former roomate of mine anymore. He'd no doubt have something to add, such was some of the convs we used to have...

What's even wilder was question about whether Neanderthals completely died off, or whether to a limited degree they inter-bred with Crow Magnon's somewhat. Favoring such a possibility is that Neanderthals and Crow Magnons lived around the same time, and their fossils weren't always found that far apart. Also, that people of European dissent have some features in common...

But such as been a debate that had been going on for some time...

j0j081 · 07-08-05, 12:56 PM

I think this is cool. I love reading about new discoveries regardless of the funneh.

Ninjaman09 · 07-08-05, 01:03 PM

Wow, talk about old news. This came out what, like 4 months ago or something? Anyway, yeah, it's neat.

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10-30-04, 10:16 PM	#3
Skrot The 5900XT that could. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 548	Re: Proof - Hobbits really existed Wouldn't this class as evidence, and not proof?

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07-07-05, 03:38 PM	#8
DaveW Its me! Hurray! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brit in USA Posts: 4,610	Re: Proof - Hobbits really existed Isn't it a stretch to declare the discovery of a new species of human based on just one fossil? How do they know she wasn't just a regular person with a growth deficiency, we have people like that today. __________________ Core2 Q9400 @ 3.0, eVGA GTX 260, 4G DDR 800, Vista64

07-07-05, 10:23 PM	#10
Son Goku No lover of dogma Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 8,472	Re: Proof - Hobbits really existed Given the number of hominids who existed in the past, another species wouldn't be inconceivable. Too bad I'm not sure how to get ahold of that former roomate of mine anymore. He'd no doubt have something to add, such was some of the convs we used to have... What's even wilder was question about whether Neanderthals completely died off, or whether to a limited degree they inter-bred with Crow Magnon's somewhat. Favoring such a possibility is that Neanderthals and Crow Magnons lived around the same time, and their fossils weren't always found that far apart. Also, that people of European dissent have some features in common... But such as been a debate that had been going on for some time...

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07-08-05, 01:03 PM	#12
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