The Left a bigger enemy than Islamic terrorists

[UDawg]

I stand by this. Who am I talking about here? Groups like this http://www.worldcantwait.net/ This group was formed by this group http://rwor.org/rcp-e.htm They are also the same people who back this group http://www.internationalanswer.org/. They all are a part of the international socialist party and communist party. I have post this before and the links they all have. ANSWER is the driving force behind the anti-war protests. They are a communist organization.

They are more and more creeping into the Democratic party. They are becoming the main stream. Anti-capitalists, hard-core socialists and communists. I hate these people as much as the Islamic terrorists. I cannot stress this enough.

I doubt most the liberals here fall into this catagory, so don't get offended. I clearly see a distinction between your average liberal Democrat and the the socialist left.

[Zelda_fan]

yep.

I made a post about this not to long ago.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...highlight=guys

I entiteled it "these guys are ****ing pyschopaths." A fitting title IMHO.

These wack jobs are the ones protesting outside my front door on a regular basis.

BUT I agree with you that most liberals are this nuts. As much as I bash liberals on this forum, I have several real life liberal friends whom I respect a lot (I just disagree with them politically). And let me tell you a lot of liberals are appalled by groups like "the world can't wait." However, I do think a lot of the anti-bush crowd is getting carried away in the momentum and joining up with these commies.

All I can say is if this group comes EVEN CLOSE to achomplishing their goals - prepare to die commies. Prepare to die. I am not kidding around at all about this.

[UDawg]

Here is what sparked me to post about these guys again. They took out a full page add in the NYT saying they wanted to shout the president down during the State of the Union speech. The left is doing this more and more. The shout people down instead of debating the issues. This is EXACTLY what the Nazis did in the 20s. Yet we are called the nazis. In this forum I make fun of liberals and ignore most of their pathetic diatribe because it isn't worth debating but I do not shout them down. I may be sarcastic, nast and in your face but that is mostly out of bordom of the arguments.

[Tygerwoody]

Originally Posted by UDawg

I doubt most the liberals here fall into this catagory, so don't get offended. I clearly see a distinction between your average liberal Democrat and the the socialist left.

if that is true then why the crappy title for the thread? That is just as sorry as saying EVERYONE in the US is a criminal because there are criminals in the US. A select few amount of people do not make up the whole. You know this, so why have a title like that if you trying to do anything BUT cause some type of trouble.

[mastermuncher]

Originally Posted by UDawg

Here is what sparked me to post about these guys again. They took out a full page add in the NYT saying they wanted to shout the president down during the State of the Union speech. The left is doing this more and more. The shout people down instead of debating the issues. This is EXACTLY what the Nazis did in the 20s. Yet we are called the nazis. In this forum I make fun of liberals and ignore most of their pathetic diatribe because it isn't worth debating but I do not shout them down. I may be sarcastic, nast and in your face but that is mostly out of bordom of the arguments.

Look, we agree that these groups are fringe at best. But your argument about debating the issues is just crazy

The right says they want debate, yet they set the bar so low that when you ask a question, their response is to challenge your patriotism, which avoides the debate. Smear the messenger is the montra of the right in the last few years.

You dont want debate on Iraq, the justification for the action, or anything of the sort. Your response' are always "get on board or get out of the way", "Your with us, or your with the terrorists", "the left is un-american", whenever anyone on the right asks.

You scream that the left has "no plan of their own", well they came up with one, and the right is trying to smear the architect, not the plan.

You claim that you dont debate but " ignore most of their pathetic diatribe because it isn't worth debating". Get off your high horse and debate then. Your problem is that you believe that you are somehow cerebrally, and morally better than the left. Thats a dangerous view of yourself, and/or your ideals.

[AlphaWolf_HK]

Damnit Udawg, why did you have go and dump all of that sand into their vaginas? Now they all are going to have their tired old "quit calling us unpatriotic" periods in this thread. This is going to turn into a bloodbath.

[J-Mag]

Originally Posted by UDawg

They are more and more creeping into the Democratic party. They are becoming the main stream. Anti-capitalists, hard-core socialists and communists. I hate these people as much as the Islamic terrorists. I cannot stress this enough.

What are you worried about? I have never even heard of these orginizations. Not to mention there is no way in hell this country would ever become communistic, thats like trying to tell the predators of the African Savanah to share food! Anyway, the only countries which still maintain they are communisitic have a relatively free market economy.

Economics is the driving force and politics is a result thereof. (although I admit there is a feedback mechanism in place)

[UDawg]

Originally Posted by AlphaWolf_HK

Damnit Udawg, why did you have go and dump all of that sand into their vaginas? Now they all are going to have their tired old "quit calling us unpatriotic" periods in this thread. This is going to turn into a bloodbath.

Notice the first thing cried about is the title of the thread. Reason number one I have stopped arguing with them.

Notice they say I am the one that wont debate, yet when I do they change the subject every time. The thing MM and SD don't get is that we have gone over this for the last 3 years, WAY before they were members here. After 3 years of chasing our tails they have the ovaries to say we don't want to debate them. Give it up libs, we are tired of your constant crying about this war. I do not intend to debate you on war issues. Other topics are fine but the war and how it started is a dead issue that you lost a long time ago. Find another twit to engage in this mastibatory exercise in oratory ass grabbing. This twit has been done with this issue a long time ago.

As to the reason why I should worry about these groups? They are becoming more and more mainstream in the democrat party. Moveon.org and Democratic undeground have a huge financial and ideaolical influence in the democratic party. They put Howard the Dean in the DNC chair. He is a left wing fringe nut.

[UDawg]

[quote=mastermuncher]

You scream that the left has "no plan of their own", well they came up with one, and the right is trying to smear the architect, not the plan.

I didn't smear Murtha. I smeared his pathetic plan and so have almost every other sane person.

You claim that you dont debate but " ignore most of their pathetic diatribe because it isn't worth debating". Get off your high horse and debate then. Your problem is that you believe that you are somehow cerebrally, and morally better than the left. Thats a dangerous view of yourself, and/or your ideals.

Please don't tell me what I think.


I have a little post above this one that explains why I wont debate these topics any more. So give it up.

[Peoples-Agent]

We never see them over here neither, until the BNP actually won an elected seat in the Bradford area, and Broxbourne which is a rather posh and snooty suburban area.

Point being, anyone can be influenced.... just be careful who gets to your kids minds first.

[mastermuncher]

Originally Posted by UDawg

Please don't tell me what I think.


I have a little post above this one that explains why I wont debate these topics any more. So give it up.

Lets go back to the original posts, and see:

Post #3

Originally Posted by UDawg

The shout people down instead of debating the issues

You make a claim, I refute it, and you are somehow morally superior because you "have gone over this for the last 3 years, WAY before they were members here. After 3 years of chasing our tails they have the ovaries to say we don't want to debate them. Give it up libs, we are tired of your constant crying about this war". I dont care if you have debated it for 3 years, you should analyze all the information as it becomes available. But apparently you and nostradomous were tight, and you know the future and all the answers. You dont care if the administration lies to you, by your own admission, yet you know all the facts.

That is just fascinating to me because you are apparently like GW, in that you are "loyal". See, as new information comes out you should analyze that information. You apparently know everything there is to know about the war, the justification for it, and the outcomes, so no you dont have to debate it. But you also dont get to accuse the left of NOT debateing the issues when you, by your own admission, wont debate them.

I dont care if you debate it, your arguments are old and tired. You havent debated anything in here for a while now, except to pop in and open the door and yell "LIBS SUCK", then slam the door closed again. You have nothing to add except "libs suck", "Your anti-american", or "your with us or your with the terorists", or to try to associate the left with fringe groups of communists. So yes, as stated above, I do think in your mind you believe yourself to be mentally and morally superior, and if that helps you sleep at night then go nighty night little one.

[Ringthane]

Well, ****. Here we did all that fighting in Iraq, removed a dictator from power, lost American lives, and all that, and here the real, more serious enemy is here among us. How embarrassing.