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Old 02-15-07, 02:46 PM   #1
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Rush probably made this email up


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Hey Rush,

I am scratching my head here. None of this makes any sense… but I wonder what you think about all of this…

The national news media shows lots of our American servicemen and women dying over there in Iraq and getting killed, helicopters being shot-down, roadside bombs going off…etc…etc. Yet, when you are there, when you work with Americans and Iraqis who are actively engaged in re-building the country, who are out going after the enemy… there’s this ever-present sense of optimism, this prevailing up-beat mood of doing good. Just go talk to the wounded servicemen at Brooks or Bethesda… they’ll tell you the same. Likewise… the Iraqi gentlemen (civilians) I worked with were excited about their economic prospects. They were eager for their families to experience a better life than the life they had under a totalitarian regime.

Rush, there’s an upbeat mood out there in Iraq. The country and its new democracy are moving forward. And the enemy hates it.

On the subject of “civil war” or “civil strife” in Iraq…

From what we can tell… there’s no “civil war” or “civil strife” as the news media puts it. The terrorists are coming from outside the country and killing civilians – as many as possible – to gain a foothold in Iraq. They play this stuff on TV to make us sick. It’s working… we are getting sick… but Iraq is getting strong. If there really is civil strife in the country… then WHY don’t WE hear statements in the news about Shia leaders taking responsibility for Sunni killings, and vice-versa? WHY? This is why: Because they aren’t doing that Rush. THAT’S WHY we NEVER hear news reports from the so-called “civil strife” combatants themselves… because there aren’t any… the IRAQIS are trying to build-up their country and make it work… MEANWHILE the enemy comes and kills everyone they can… and they run away from the scene (or die in the blast themselves).

One more thought…

I HATE DOING MATH…BUT THINK ABOUT THIS….

Rush…there’s anywhere from 500 to 1,000 road vehicle convoys per day in the country of Iraq. One or three of these vehicle convoys (at most) get hit by an IED each day, which destroys maybe one or two vehicles. Most convoys have anywhere from 20 – 100 vehicles…NOW…what’s your odds (e.g. CNN reporter) of being tagged by an IED????

In Summary…

I remain confused, amazed, and dumbfounded by the news-media view on the war. And yet Americans are buying it…WHY??? How can we believe only one side of the story without seeing the whole picture… the whole story as it unfolds? Does ANYONE really know (other than those who are there) what’s REALLY happening in Iraq??? Is there any chance of getting any of this news reporting being done right???

America is doing good things over there. Our troops are awesome… they are an inspiration… a model of courage and of selfless patriotism. Why don’t people back home trust them?

Mega Dittos Rush

Very Respectfully,

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Old 02-15-07, 02:52 PM   #2
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I think every one of these "letter from a soldier" things are completely made up.
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Old 02-15-07, 05:11 PM   #3
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Yeah, as much as I'd love to believe that's real, it's just a little too upbeat. And no civil strife? well....
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Old 02-15-07, 06:04 PM   #4
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I dunno, for some reason I wanted to repost this. While we can poke fun of the Iraqi prime minister there's a bit too much "wag the dog" around theese happy soldiers saying everything is fine over in Iraq while the rest of the media reports about new dead every week.
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Old 02-15-07, 06:21 PM   #5
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I dunno, for some reason I wanted to repost this.
every time i see you post, i just want to say sweden is a bunch of pussies but why should i have to, the world already knows that.
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Old 02-15-07, 06:25 PM   #6
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I don't think you can call any letter any more accurate than another. Everybody is going to be seeing the ground from a different perspective.

When I was in high school ROTC, the commander of my unit was a Vietnam veteran and he always said that the most accurate Vietnam movie he ever saw was Operation Dumbo Drop. Go figure.

Obviously what we hear in the media probably isn't anymore accurate either since they don't tell you anything unless its bad news, simply because good news does not sell, either that or if it is some kind of bullsh*t stupid people news about some random celebrity getting married, having a kid, or going to drug rehab. The only exceptions are far and few between. Whether you believe that or not, it is a fact that the media doesn't tell you everything that happens there 24/7, nor would you be able to watch that even if they did.

As far as every one of us is concerned, the war could be going much better or much worse than we think, and there really isn't any way to tell any difference without going there yourself. Modern journalists are too full of bias and/or bullsh*t for it to be any other way.

If you've ever been personally involved in something that the media has reported before, you'd know exactly what I am talking about.

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every time i see you post, i just want to say sweden is a bunch of pussies but why should i have to, the world already knows that.
He has already shown himself to be a dumbass, just ignore him. Everytime I prove his dumbass wrong he either just ignores it or responds with a one sentence quip that is rhetorical and means absolutely nothing.
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Old 02-15-07, 06:36 PM   #7
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He has already shown himself to be a dumbass, just ignore him. Everytime I prove his dumbass wrong he either just ignores it or responds with a one sentence quip that is rhetorical and means absolutely nothing.
ya i know, what im trying todo is just get a rise out of him, for the most part i just ignore him. lol
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As far as every one of us is concerned, the war could be going much better or much worse than we think, and there really isn't any way to tell any difference without going there yourself. Modern journalists are too full of bias and/or bullsh*t for it to be any other way.
What about all the documentaries that show the soldiers daily lives and interviews with them?

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There were even a few series on History/Discovery/Military Channels, I saw in the past.

None of the soldiers seemed full of optimism.
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Everytime I prove his dumbass wrong
Keep on dreaming.
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What about all the documentaries that show the soldiers daily lives and interviews with them?

Gunner Palace
The War Tapes
There were even a few series on History/Discovery/Military Channels, I saw in the past.

None of the soldiers seemed full of optimism.
Right, like how in Fahrenheit 9/11 all of the positive interviews were removed.

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Pfft, I've done it several times already. Your credibility goes about as far as I can throw you.
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Right, like how in Fahrenheit 9/11 all of the positive interviews were removed.
You think that the History channel documentaries are as extreme as F9/11?

I have found that the History channel spins a positive light on our military.

Oh and what about Raptorman? I don't remember him being very upbeat about the Iraqi situation...

Edit: Also, I was reading apost from someone who just got back from Iraq over on XtremeSystems:

Ok, being in the US military, let me break some things down for people that may not know what we are doing in Iraq and how it is affecting Iran and its stance against the "Western world".

The U.S. forces in country right now have their hands tied and can't hardly do anything. we are waging a pyschological war against the insurgents and hopefully demoralizing them. which in an honest estimation isn't quite working the way we planned. The pyschological effect we were hoping for is more Iraqis finding a good job near their home so they can support their family like we do in every other civilization in this world. Instead the terrorist are bombing and bribing as many people as possible to look the other way or to completely ignore them. I dealt with some Iraqi officials and I know for a fact that many of them would look us in the face and tell us that they are fighting against the terrorist and hunting them down while just about an hour later they were accepting a couple thousand from some guy that told him to ignore any kind of U.S. military support if he wanted to see his family again. how can you win in an environment like that? I know that the U.S. will not invade Iran due to the simple fact that we (the military) is stretched out too thin. fighting a "war" on a third front would really be disasterous.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=133417&page=5
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every time i see you post, i just want to say sweden is a bunch of pussies but why should i have to, the world already knows that.
Because posting something wittier than schoolyard taunts would be out of your league.
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