Flickering on GeForce FX - NVIDIA needs your help

[Atlas37]

The 5900 is a piece of junk not just the flickering, but IQ sucks big time. Why dont you try your 5900 on a good CRT and see what happens.





Intel D875PBZ (Rev. 2) P4 3.0c @ 1%
1g p3200 crucial (2.5-3-2-6)
Antec truepower 550
Sony 21" G520P
Ati 9800PRO

[Clay]

Originally posted by Atlas37
The 5900 is a piece of junk not just the flickering, but IQ sucks big time. Why dont you try your 5900 on a good CRT and see what happens.

Since you didn't quote I assume you were responding to my last post.

I'm not going to join in with ad hominem arguments. My personal opinion, however, using the following CRT: Hitachi CM721FB CRT Monitor - 19-Inch / 85Hz Refresh Rate is that IQ differences between the 5900U and 9800Pro are negligable in games from my own comparison screenshots (even when zooming at at up to 500%). I've not done extensive IQ testing in 2D apps or with just Windows but my overall impression of 2D IQ differences is similar to that of 3D.

The 9800Pro is faster than the 5900U in UT2003 by a few FPS and up to 10FPS faster in Morrowind at various settings. Considering the price difference it goes without saying that the 9800Pro is a better buy right now. However, to say that one or the other "is a piece of junk" as a blanket statement just isn't true until we have hard facts as to how many of either card is problematic compared to how many are problem-free. We just don't know those statistics though.

If 100 people have problematic 5900Us and they all speak up in a forum about it...who's to say that 10,000 people don't have perfect 5900Us? Those without problems aren't nearly as likely to be posting that their card works just fine. My point is that there is obviously a problem but to what extent no one can yet say so blanket statements hold no water.

[fivefeet8]

Originally posted by Atlas37
[b]The 5900 is a piece of junk not just the flickering, but IQ sucks big time. Why dont you try your 5900 on a good CRT and see what happens.

I have tried it on my CRT 19" 1600x1200 display. The IQ is just as good, if not better than on my friends 9800pro. You should realize that Nvidia Manufacturers don't use all the same quality RFI filters and components. I find my BFG to have great IQ.

No flickering or noises as well.

[Jericho]

Originally posted by Atlas37
The 5900 is a piece of junk not just the flickering, but IQ sucks big time. Why dont you try your 5900 on a good CRT and see what happens.





Intel D875PBZ (Rev. 2) P4 3.0c @ 1%
1g p3200 crucial (2.5-3-2-6)
Antec truepower 550
Sony 21" G520P
Ati 9800PRO

EDIT -- Reponse removed due to meta-flaming! --Sy--

[Atlas37]

I hope you get a good night sleep. I know I will.

EDIT -- I suggest the next time you two decide to engage in a meta-flaming war, do so via Email or PMs. Don't do it in this thread. Thanks. --Sy--

[Clay]

Originally posted by Atlas37
I hope you get a good night sleep. I know I will.

Hey that's great. Nighty-night and sweet dreams and stuff.

[Atlas37]

Originally posted by maxpower
Hey that's great. Nighty-night and sweet dreams and stuff.

Thanks!

[Flavius]

I have lost faith in Nvidia responding. I don't think they will because there is nothing they could say that won't enrage everyone. I think they will quietly fix this problem at some point in the future. But I have lost my patience, so with signs that ATI continue to improve their driver quality, I will give the ATI 9800XT a shot, unless NV38 comes out first and I read that it fixes the flicker problem for people. Heck, if NV38 won't be as fast as 5900 Ultra, and no faster Nvidia product will exist until NV40, then I probably won't bother with NV38 at all. By the time NV40 comes out in the spring, it sounds like R420 on the stable .15 micron tech will be out, and if it really is 2X faster than a 9800, I am afraid Nvidia will truly be destined to become the graphics underdog. And no, I am not an ATI fanboy, I've RMA'ed TWO ATI cards already (plus a 5900) and currently have a GF4 in my comp.

[DuckMaestro]

this sucks. i think im being screwed over by the companies involved because none of them want to take responsibility for this. So far no word from NVIDIA, MSI still has stopped responding to my emails, and my retailer wont give me a refund. a;lksjdlkfj;alkj;dlkj;lfkj;alkdjlskjflskdjf;alskdj f; (%#*))(#*%)

Does anyone want to buy a very good condition MSI GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 256mb?

[BB NVPR]

NVIDIA was made aware of an issue involving the GeForce FX 5900 series of graphics cards where some users have reported a slight "flickering" of the image on their screen, visible on a light color background in certain 3D scenes.

In examining the information available, NVIDIA has determined that the issue may involve an interaction between select combinations of the graphics card, system, monitor, other electronic components and the application which creates noise or signal interference.

If you are experiencing this issue on a GeForce FX 5900 or GeForce FX 5900 Ultra card, you can download this driver fix (9.28 MB). It is available on our affiliate sites:


http://www.3dgpu.com/modules/wfsecti...p?articleid=72

http://www.************/ubbthreads/sh...b=5&o=&fpart=1

http://www.nvnews.net/files/drivers/nvidia/45.33_xp.zip


If you experience any other issues - please email us at support@nvidia.com.


Other web sites hosting these drivers include:

http://www.*********.com/drivers/off...a/nt5/4533.php

[volt]

Thanks for the heads up. Will test it right away.

[DuckMaestro]

wooohooo we're saved! (i hope) im downloading the driver patch right now... i hope it works....



-duck