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Old 04-17-03, 07:50 AM   #1
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Unhappy GeForce4 Ti 4600 + 43.49 = Bla(n|c)k Screen + System Crash

Hello,

When I upgraded from GeForce4 MX 460 to GeForce4 Ti 4600 I noticed something really weird.
When I switched from X to console I was not able to see a thing... the screen was totaly black. This also was noticed when the Xserver was shutdown (before reboot) or manualy... I didn't touched anything on my XF86Config, because of nvidia's UDA. The strange thing was that the system was running ok exept of showing nothing at the console so I could run again the X server but I was not able to see the console. When I upgraded from 41.91 to 43.49 there was nothing new exept when I try to switch to console mode the system HANGS. I cant reboot or halt the system if i'm working with X. When X tries to shut down I get a totally black screen and the system hangs... If i use Ctr+Alt+F1 to switch to console the same thing... an I cant get back to X as I did with the 41.91...

My Video Card is a Chaintech GeForce4 Ti 4600 SE
The driver I use now is 43.49
My distro is Slackware 9.0, kernel 2.4.20 (with alan cox patch for use promise's ATARAID function)
Video BIOS 04.25.00.37.00
Processor Intel P4 2.0GHz
and mobo is GigaByte 8IEXP v1.2 (i845E)

Any Ideas ?

Haris
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Old 04-29-03, 08:27 AM   #2
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Hello,

that is exactly my problem!
Changing to console or shutting down will crash my running system with nvidia 43.49 or 43.63.
At this time 41.91 (and earlier) is the only driver that is working, but changing to console or shutting down is only possible with a black screen... changing back to X works.

Model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
Video BIOS: 04.28.20.05.11

SuSE 8.2 (Kernel 2.4.20)

mobo: Epox 8RDA+ (nForce2)

What can I do to see the text-mode again, if X has been activated once?

If you need some files, please tell me!

Thank you for answering!
Andreas

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Old 04-30-03, 01:11 AM   #3
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I don't know if this problem, described in the following link from the SuSE Database, is relevant... But it matches exactly one of my problems that I have with all nvidia-drivers (testet since 3123).
That is the Problem of the black console.

Please look here for Black Console Problem

I don't want to switch back to nv...
I know that I had these nvidia-driver 3123 (for example) running with my old system (PIII 500, Abit BX6, GeForce256) and console switching was working fine.

I would like to know if there is someone out there who got this black-console problem solved without switching back to nv?!

So far,
Andreas

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Old 04-30-03, 01:42 AM   #4
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I also had this problem with the 4xxx series drivers, 3xxx (eg. 3123) worked fine.

To fix it I reduced the resolution on my console framebuffer (VesaFB) to 800x600x64k (vga=788).

Hope this works as well for you as it does for me.
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Old 04-30-03, 02:03 AM   #5
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You think I should do this by giving the kernel-parameter at the bootup?
I've tested different setting: vga=788 or vga=normal
All of these setting did not fix the problem... sorry :-(

I read in some other forums (trigger was the text from the SuSE DB) that there are possibly the wrong permissions set. But even setting more rights to "/dev/nvidia*" doesn't seem to work...

Maybe there are other ways to fix the problem?!
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Old 04-30-03, 02:46 AM   #6
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Sorry that didn't work for you, Kulturlaus.

Yes, the kernel parameter was exactly what I meant.

I should have also stated in my previous post that this worked on Slackware 9.0

Not familiar with SuSe or PAM which the susedb state as being one of the possible problems.

Any takers ?
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Old 04-30-03, 04:05 AM   #7
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I would like to know if there is someone out there who got this black-console problem solved without switching back to nv?!
Would like to joint the club

I have the same problem with a fresh Mandrake 9.1 system on a ASUS A7V8X motherboard and GeForce 4 Ti4200-8X card, and would like to know when anyone finds a solution.

I checked the SuSe link, and tried to change the access rights to /dev/nvidia*, but I had no such file(s), possible because I had reverted to use the "nv" driver instead.

For me everything, including running the installation script..., seems to work OK. When I boot I can enter X (after first have seeen the nvidia screeen), and the nvidia driver works fine as long as I stay in X-windows, but I would like to be able to at least do a proper shutdown, that syncs the file-systems. Now, if I try to logout or shutdown from X or if I try to change to a console using Ctrl-Alt-Fx, the system hangs. After that the screen is dark-gray (logout/shutdown) or have scrambled coloured pixels (changing to console). I cant reach the system from the network either, so the only possibility is the reset (or power) switch.

Switching back to use the "nv" driver works fine, but...
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Nice to see "our club" growing

Have you tested any earlier drivers? I can use the nvidia 41.49 instead of the nv and switch to console (but only the black screen) and back so that my PC does not freeze.
The 43.xx drivers will freeze my PC if I do this.

But only the nvidia 31.23 drivers allow, that I can log out and see the login-screen again. In case of 41.49 my monitor switches to black.

5min ago I switched to the nv-default, too ;-) Switching to console is no problem now.

We will see if there is another way...
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Hello Andreas!

No, I have just bought new hardware, and put the box together, and installed Mandrake 9.1 and the latest driver from nvidia:s homepage. I never had an earlier version of it, and I am not sure I would like to try one of them.

I primarly am interested to test if I can get the TV-out working in Linux, since I am doing some video-editing. I thought that the latest driver could be a good start.

After looking around in the different threads, I can see that this, or very similar problems are common, and appears on different distributions and versions of Linux.

Facing that, at least for me, it works OK using one driver "nv", and fails using another "nvidia" I think it either must be some flaw in the nvidia driver, or it is not possible to switch drivers only by changing the X-configuration file. In either case I would expect some solution to pop-up rather soon, but it appears that people have had these problems quite a while now...

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Default same ****

I have changed kernel to 2.4.20 and faced problem:
when i try to exit X or change to console, i get black screen and system lock up.
2 times i was able to shut down X, but i'm unable to reproduce this


I have GeForce 2 mx400.
i used latest driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run
i use ASPLinux 7.3
[root@localhost root]# cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model: GeForce2 MX/MX 400
IRQ: 11
Video BIOS: 03.11.01.24.00
Card Type: AGP
i have athlon 1333
my motherboard is kt266-based, elitegroup.

any workaround?

i'm joining the club, cause problem is same

btw, everyone who faced this problem have 2.4.20... isnt that strange?

perms are ok, cause **** happens even if x launched by root

btw, i was able to exit x 2 times, someone could?
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Old 05-01-03, 06:07 PM   #11
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I don't think that /dev/nvidia* is related to our problem because
i used to run X as root...

My kernel was compiled without fb support, and it was my last
hope to add the fb support but didn't worked too.



btw: anyone tried a 2.4.19 or even more 2.2.x kernel ?
Haris

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Old 05-01-03, 11:50 PM   #12
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By the way, i checked and found that:
I got black screen and lockup regardless of video driver i use, i tried "nvidia", "nv" and even "fbdev" - they all halt!
i checked - my old kernel (2.4.18-5asp) still works good...
i even think that it might be not video problem.
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