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Old 06-06-03, 12:17 AM   #1
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Default Nvidia is quacking up, 3dmurk2k3 confirms it

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in a funny twist of fate, I got a tip earlier this week about NVIDIA's Detonator FX drivers. The allegation: if you rename 3DMark03.exe to something else and run the benchmark with anisotropic filtering enabled in the drivers, test scores drop. In other words, NVIDIA appears to be using the same lame technique ATI did way back when: keying on the program's filename in order to trigger benchmark "optimizations." In this case, those optimizations appear to be a lower quality form of texture filtering than the anisotropic filtering method selected in the driver control panel. Many review sites like us benchmark cards with anisotropic filtering and edge antialiasing turned on, so these things do matter.

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i would start testing this with as many games as possible. I commented in another thread here today that I thought Nvidia was still Doing some Fishy things with AF... Being that there was no reason for their big AF gains, especially since they only appear to be in certain major benchmarks...

Edit: there are other ways to do this kind of thing without this Kind of application detection. I personally believe they are pulling the same kinds of things in

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Question begs the question

some have already asked> "just how deep is the rabbit hole?"
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Old 06-06-03, 12:46 AM   #4
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Question hmmm

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i would start testing this with as many games as possible. I commented in another thread here today that I thought Nvidia was still Doing some Fishy things with AF... Being that there was no reason for their big AF gains, especially since they only appear to be in certain major benchmarks...
I noticed this comment in another forum> "nVidia also broke the getpixel function for opengl in their 2 lowest AA modes"

an off the cuff remark with no follow-up......so, what does it mean??
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You also have to wonder...

Didnt Nvidia realize with everything else that something like this would get uncovered??? I cant believe they went this far, considering everything else.... Its pretty damn scarry.

Oh and Nv40.. I Guess this negates that thread you made about Nvidia Wining 3dmark with AA+AF evern without the *optimizations*.
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Oh and Nv40.. I Guess this negates that thread you made about Nvidia Wining 3dmark with AA+AF evern without the *optimizations*.
Hehe that was one of the first few things that came at me after I read the article and came back in here. His thread about it is just a couple steps down too .
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With all the recent Futuremark-Nvidia negotiations and agreements going on behind the scenes. And Official Statements of not cheating and getting special IHV support and the other things suggested in the Nvidia-Futuremark statements.... and yet...

All the While Nvidia knew damn well they were Still doing something like this??? While seemingly threatening leagal action??

Its just unbelievable.
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Has anyone bothered to do a diff of the two images against the reference rasteriser?

You never know - nVidia's new anisotropic could be both faster and more correct all at the same time...
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Has anyone bothered to do a diff of the two images against the reference rasteriser?

You never know - nVidia's new anisotropic could be both faster and more correct all at the same time...
Hello... It only goes up with a specific application detection. not some general improvement in the rendering process. This is not some *new* AF process..
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I really find it hard to believe that nVidia would detect the name of the application after what happened to ATI for doing the same thing.
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Has anyone bothered to do a diff of the two images against the reference rasteriser?
You never know - nVidia's new anisotropic could be both faster and more correct all at the same time...
That's what I call blind faith.

This is the biggest fiasco I have ever seen in the hardware biz. What did Nvidia do, hire a whole team of driver cheating coders? *rubs eyes*
My brain keeps telling me that Nvidia would not be that stupid as to pull a quack like move. There is some mistake, right?
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what the hell... unbelievable!!!!!!
nvidia is really crossing my bottom line now...
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