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Old 07-29-03, 08:58 AM   #1
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I have this weird problem with nvidia's drivers. Installing the latest (1.0-4496) goes just fine and I'm able to start X. Drivers work just fine until I try to escape from X (either by pressing ctrl-alt-del or normal logout) as the screen goes black and my computer hangs up and power booting is the only way to go on.

The problem occurs with other 1.0-4XXX drivers as well and I haven't been able to compile earlier drivers.

I'm running RedHat 9 on 1200 MHz amd duron. Motherboard is Soltek SL-75KAV and graphics card Geforce4 Ti4200.

== /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0 ===
Model: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
IRQ: 10
Video BIOS: 04.28.20.16.00
Card Type: AGP
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Somehow I believe this is redhat problem as I have not experienced such problems with any other distribution running on the same hardware. However, I were wondering if anyone else is having such problems or maybe has found solutions.
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Old 07-29-03, 02:37 PM   #2
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Have you tried updating your kernel, or using a stock kernel from kernel.org?

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Old 07-29-03, 02:56 PM   #3
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Oh, yes. Just compiled 2.4.20 vanilla and the problem goes on. I were able to compile 1.0-3123 drivers too, but they were no good either.

Earlier I did update to redhat's 2.4.20-19.9, which as far as I know is redhat's latest update.
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Old 07-29-03, 03:24 PM   #4
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If it's limited to RH, then it might be the Xserver snap they have. Have you tried vanilla XFree 4.3.0 or later?

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Old 07-29-03, 05:27 PM   #5
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I have had exactly the same problem here and I found out that if I reboot the computer WITHOUT my tv-out cable plugged-in, it doesn't hang up when I exit X.

If I plug it back in, any attempt to exit X results in a complete lock up.
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Old 07-29-03, 05:45 PM   #6
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Interesting. What's your vbios revision?

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Old 07-29-03, 07:00 PM   #7
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Hey,

Just thought I'd mention other specs as well to help you out.

Athlon XP 2000+
512 megs DDR-333 (crucial)
Asus A7N8X-DLX
Asus Geforce4-Ti4200 AGP8X

vbios version 4.28.20.05.00
128 megs memory

I can run UT2003 at 1280x1024x32 for hours without crashing.. system is pretty stable. If I boot with tv-out cable plugged in and start X, even ctrl-alt-f1 will hard lock the computer. ctrl-alt-backspace too as well as a normal log off. It's been doing that for as long as I remember (a year?) with all drivers I've tried. I've tried RH back to version 8 and right now I'm under Gentoo 1.4.

It's not too bad since unplugging the cable is only a minor problem but if you guys could work something out .. it would be great
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Old 07-30-03, 02:44 AM   #8
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OK, I tried booting with the tv-out -cable plugged off, and surprisingly, the problem has disappeared!

I earlier told having used different distributions with same hardware. Come to think of it, that is not exactly true. I used to have a Geforce4 Ti4200 with 4xAGP but it broke. From the store they gave me this 8xAGP in exchange. I'm pretty sure I haven't run RH9 with that older card.

Interesting, have we found a bug hiding in the drivers?
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Old 07-30-03, 04:01 AM   #9
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I have had exactly the same problem here and I found out that if I reboot the computer WITHOUT my tv-out cable plugged-in, it doesn't hang up when I exit X.

If I plug it back in, any attempt to exit X results in a complete lock up.
I also get problems (garbled black&white screen) when e.g. trying to shut down the PC.

Disconnecting the TV-out cable, solves it for me also.

I have a NForce motherboard (MSI K7N420Pro) and I am using the built-in graphics.

I am using Mandrake 9.1.

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Old 07-30-03, 09:30 AM   #10
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Can anyone reproduce this problem at NVIDIA?
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Old 07-30-03, 12:24 PM   #11
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It seems to be a GF4 Ti4200 problem only, and there have been some topics on this problem here..
here for example.
I have the same problem (GF4 Ti4200 on Epox 8k3a+) and I've tried just about all the 4xxx and 3xxx drivers...same result.
(also on 2.4.x AND 2.6-test kernels)

I also have a DVI interface on my card, and I have to set IgnoreDisplayDevices "TV,DFP" in my XF86config, or X will freeze even if I disable tv-out (twinview).
I've read somewhere it's some sort of timing problem with the different displays, and it was classified as a nvidia driver bug (not linux or hardware bug).

Maybe some Nvidia developper could shed some light on the matter and give some sort of bug solving status.
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Old 07-30-03, 12:32 PM   #12
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Is there any way to update the video bios if that could solve the problem? Or can this be fixed in a driver update?
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Old 07-30-03, 01:57 PM   #13
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I need to reproduce this before anything else can happen. I'll get to it today if at all possible.

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Old 07-30-03, 02:34 PM   #14
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Can anyone reproduce this problem at NVIDIA?
I have the same problem..

I have a P4 2.53/1GRAM/ASUS-Board P4PE
with an FX5200 Chip

Debian Woody with Kernel 2.4.20
latest NVidia-Driver Linux-x86...4363

The driver works well, but if I leave X the computer hangs complet..
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Old 07-30-03, 03:15 PM   #15
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Hello,

I have had the same pb when logging out X (and also when switching to full screen console Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc.), blank dark screen, and the reset button to get started again. I'm also using TV-out.

Motherboard Asus A7N8X Deluxe
CPU Athlon XP 2200
RAM 256Mb

$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model: GeForce4 MX 440
IRQ: 11
Video BIOS: 04.17.00.45.00
Card Type: AGP

Running Mandrake 9.1 with lasted kernel update : 2.4.21-0.25mdk.

Had to reinstall 4363. I had hoped that 4496 would have solved what seemed to be some slight instabilities that I didn't have with my old MSI motherboard (VIA266 chipset using linux kernel module agpgart for AGP).
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Old 07-31-03, 01:13 AM   #16
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Default The problem is TV-Out independently

In addition one to the upper entry.

I do not use the TV Out.

The problem remains - leave X (to the CONSOLE) and the computer hangs.
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Old 07-31-03, 02:16 AM   #17
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Default same problem with 4349/4369, the new driver (4496) fixes it

I mention a bit about the same problem in the thread about the new 4496 driver. When I exit from X server (shutting down/rebooting, logging into console mode) I got black screen. I have to say that the computer is not freezing but it's a kind unuseable.

My home configuration:
Duron 1300, sis 745 mobo chipset, geforce4 mx420, Debian 3.0 r0, kernel 2.4.21, TV out cable is not plugged.

All this happens with drivers 4349 and 4369. Yesterday I installed the new version (4496) and the problem dissapeared

Now one interesting thing - when at lilo prompt I use the parameter vga=794 to change the boot console resolution and start linux, work in X environment and change to console login I do not get black screen and everything is visible except the fonts are a bit screwed.

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Old 07-31-03, 02:30 AM   #18
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Oh, I forgot that the problem I described above exists only on one PC. Drivers 4349 and 4369 work pretty good on other PCs using same Debian distro and many different nVidia videocards (TNT, GeForce2 MX400, GeForce4 MX440 agp8x, GeForceFX5200) and different motherboards. I hope this helps.

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Old 07-31-03, 11:57 AM   #19
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Unhappy Driver 4496 have same Problem

I installed now the driver 4496.
The problem unfortunately remains.

The computer falls completely, it keeps running also not more in the background.

Thus I unfortunately also no Script can write was the computer automatically shutdown after I wants X (and thus Linux ) abandoned.
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Old 07-31-03, 02:08 PM   #20
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Default XFree 4.3.0 and nv

I installed XFree 4.3.0 and test the nv driver -> there is the same problem !

There is a problem to change over always if I attempts certain dissolutions. The boot-Parameter vga=749 ( see above ) produces a total crash.

Kernelproblem or Hardware problem ?


Debian 3woody
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Old 07-31-03, 02:28 PM   #21
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Hi,

I have no problem with the 'nv' driver. Only the 'nvidia' drivers cause the hang on my computers.
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Ya, this is the exact problem that I have been having for a year with my gf4ti4200. I also have a TV plugged into the tv-out of my card. I hope the nvidia team fixes this soon. I've experienced the problem on Redhat, SuSe, Mandrake, and Debian.
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Old 07-31-03, 04:15 PM   #23
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No tv cable plugged into mine, but I get the same problem. RH9 and nforce using onboard video. Well, actually mine doesnt totally lock the machine when I log out, I can still log back in just by typing the commands, but I dont see anything.
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There seem to be 2 problems:

- X crashes completely on escaping to command line (wether by logout or [ctrl][alt][F1-6]), taking the kernel with it. Blank screen, no reaction to keyboard and no remote login possible. Not even reaction on ping. Hard reset or power down is the only solution.

- X leaves you with a blank screen, but commands can still be entered, remote login is still possible, and X can be restarted.

Don't know if those two cases are caused by the same 'bug'...
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Old 08-01-03, 08:22 AM   #25
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Yep,

Another funny effect of the second bug is, while your screen is blank, if you open your TV and fire up X (blindly at console), you'll actually see your X screen on your TV...

note: I have never configured TV-out on this machine. It switches automagically from VGA to TV while exiting X.

I can't reproduce this problem anymore though since my new nvidia card just hangs like the first bug

This might be related to the hang somehow, as it seems it happens in the exact same place, i.e. right after you exit X.

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