Flickering: Which cards do, which don't

Chalnoth · 08-05-03, 09:52 PM

As seen in this thread, there is currently a problem with some GeForce FX 5900 video cards that can best be described as flickering.

In order to guide people attempting to make new purchases, I would appreciate it if everybody who browses these forums that owns a GeForce FX 5900 would please post a single time to this thread. Simply post whether or not you see the flickering, and the brand/model of your FX 5900.

I hope that with enough information, it can be discerned whether or not this problem affects FX 5900's across the board, or whether some manufacturers have managed to produce video cards that do not exhibit the problem. If it does turn out to be manufacturer-specfic, one can hope that manufacturers who have been selling the defective cards would issue recalls, or, at the very least, offer new PCB revisions that do not exhibit the problem.

Please post only once to this thread, wih only the information required. Please leave all discussion on the topic to the above mentioned thread.

**saturnotaku** · 08-05-03, 09:57 PM

When I had it, and when I get it back I'll test it again:

Albatron FX5900 PV. I haven't tried the VGA connector but having my Hitachi LCD attached via DVI produced none of the problems described here at any resolution or refresh rate.

RoachMojo · 08-06-03, 01:12 AM

Chalnoth:

1. I do have the flickering with various games.

2. I have a Evga Geforce FX 5900 Ultra.

ronterry · 08-06-03, 03:04 AM

(TWO) PNY 5900 Ultra's...both had flicker-flicker-flicker

Tested on two different machines, two different monitors...

Ron

volt · 08-06-03, 04:03 AM

1. It does flicker. I can even reproduce the problem in 2D with horizontal scroller.

2. Card: PixelView GeForce FX 5900

shadow999 · 08-06-03, 04:09 AM

(Two) MSI FX5900-TD128: Flickering in 2D/3D using analog VGA output

ginfest · 08-06-03, 04:49 AM

BFG FX5900 (128MB) using VGA connector

no flickering in 2D/3D, ran DisplayMate Suite to check 2D and various games to check 3D

Mike G

**Shamrock** · 08-06-03, 04:52 AM

Gainward 5900 Ultra (VGA connector)

NO flickering

(at my max Vsync, for every res)

GPSnoopy · 08-06-03, 05:06 AM

Asus 9950 Ultra.

Flickering in 2D and 3D using the analog VGA output.

letsel · 08-06-03, 06:44 AM

Gainward Golden Sample 5900 Ultra 256mb.
2d flickering. 3d flickering. Not all 2d applications though, same as 3d.

Clay · 08-06-03, 08:33 AM

No flickering.

Card:
BFG 5900 Ultra

System Specs:
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 1.825GHz - Thouroughbred Revision A (AIUGA)
ENERMAX EG465P-VE(FCA) 431W Power Supply
EPoX 8K3A+ (8K3A2B01 BIOS)
Samsung PC2700 (220 K4H560383D-TCB3) DDR SDRAM (1) 512MB DIMM
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 40GB 7200RPM ATA-133 Hard Disk Drive (2)
Hitachi CM721FB CRT Monitor - 19-Inch / 85Hz Refresh Rate
BFG Technologies Asylum GeForce FX 5900 Ultra - 256MB
NVIDIA Detonator XP Driver Version 44.03
VIA Hyperion 4in1 v4.48 drivers
32-Bit Color / Onboard Sound / Vsync Disabled
Windows XP Professional w/ Service Pack 1 / DirectX 9b

BB NVPR · 08-06-03, 12:57 PM

We have become aware that both NVIDIA and competitor’s cards are experiencing similar problems that are described as “flickering”, “rolling lines” or “quivering” in different forum posts. Here are a couple of examples:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...threadid=15467

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...0&pagenumber=1

NVIDIA has been investigating these problems; we are having a difficult time reproducing the issue. We are under the impression it is a noise issue, not a graphics card issue and is system specific.

In an effort to find a solution, we ask that anyone in the Bay area who is experiencing this issue on an NVIDIA GPU and would like to visit NVIDIA with the system in tow contact us. We can use the system to identify the problem and see if we can resolve the issue. You will be doing a favor to NVIDIA and a service to the community. We will also make sure you leave with an arm full of NVIDIA swag!

First come first served! We can not look at every system in the Bay area, sorry.
Contact bburke@nvidia.com.

08-05-03, 09:52 PM	#1
Chalnoth Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,293	Flickering: Which cards do, which don't As seen in this thread, there is currently a problem with some GeForce FX 5900 video cards that can best be described as flickering. In order to guide people attempting to make new purchases, I would appreciate it if everybody who browses these forums that owns a GeForce FX 5900 would please post a single time to this thread. Simply post whether or not you see the flickering, and the brand/model of your FX 5900. I hope that with enough information, it can be discerned whether or not this problem affects FX 5900's across the board, or whether some manufacturers have managed to produce video cards that do not exhibit the problem. If it does turn out to be manufacturer-specfic, one can hope that manufacturers who have been selling the defective cards would issue recalls, or, at the very least, offer new PCB revisions that do not exhibit the problem. Please post only once to this thread, wih only the information required. Please leave all discussion on the topic to the above mentioned thread. __________________ "Physics is like sex. Sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it." - Richard P. Feynman

08-06-03, 01:12 AM	#3
RoachMojo Who...who are you..? Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 291	Chalnoth: 1. I do have the flickering with various games. 2. I have a Evga Geforce FX 5900 Ultra. __________________ Coolermaster ATC-210-VX1 case w/ Rosewill 850W PSU \| Q9650@3.6Ghz w/ Zalman CNPS9700 LED \| eVga 780i BIOS P10 w/ 4GB OCZ Platinum PC8500 \| 3-WD 640GB + External WD 1TB + Lite On 12x Blu-ray Burner \| eVga Geforce GTX470 SC w/ Sony 60EX700 HDTV \| Nvidia HD Audio on Denon 1909 5.1 and Polk Speakers \| Dual Booting XP Professional SP3 and Windows 7 Enterprise X64

08-06-03, 03:04 AM	#4
ronterry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elizabeth, CO USA Posts: 18	(TWO) PNY 5900 Ultra's...both had flicker-flicker-flicker Tested on two different machines, two different monitors... Ron __________________ P4C 3G Abit IC7-G ATI 9800 Pro 128 1024 Megs XMS PC-3500 Raid 0+2 Audigy 2

08-06-03, 04:03 AM	#5
volt Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: /dev/null Posts: 1,556	1. It does flicker. I can even reproduce the problem in 2D with horizontal scroller. 2. Card: PixelView GeForce FX 5900 __________________ [b]Optimization guidelines by Koji Ashida of NVIDIA:[/b][list][]Use fx12 instructions whenever possible[]Use lowest pixel shader version[/list][url=http://developer.nvidia.com/docs/IO/10878/ChinaJoy2004_OptimizationAndTools.pdf]source[/url] [size=1]The politics are invading the technology. We don't really like to mess with politics because that kind of adversarial relationship has nothing to do with pure technical operations and the technical specifications of what we like to play with, the hardware![/size]

08-06-03, 04:09 AM	#6
shadow999 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 5	(Two) MSI FX5900-TD128: Flickering in 2D/3D using analog VGA output Last edited by shadow999; 08-06-03 at 09:35 AM.

08-05-03, 09:57 PM	#2
saturnotaku Apple user. Deal with it. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The 'burbs, IL USA Posts: 12,502	When I had it, and when I get it back I'll test it again: Albatron FX5900 PV. I haven't tried the VGA connector but having my Hitachi LCD attached via DVI produced none of the problems described here at any resolution or refresh rate.

08-06-03, 04:49 AM	#7
ginfest "Oderint dum metuant" Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 142	BFG FX5900 (128MB) using VGA connector no flickering in 2D/3D, ran DisplayMate Suite to check 2D and various games to check 3D Mike G

08-06-03, 04:52 AM	#8
Shamrock Royalty gone awry Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,596	Gainward 5900 Ultra (VGA connector) NO flickering (at my max Vsync, for every res) __________________ They're after me Lucky Charms! AMD Phenom II 955BE 16GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1333Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX surround sound HANNS-G 28" LCD ZBoard Merc Gaming Keyboard CoolerMaster HAF-932 Full Tower Case Windows 7 Pro x64

08-06-03, 05:06 AM	#9
GPSnoopy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 38	Asus 9950 Ultra. Flickering in 2D and 3D using the analog VGA output.

08-06-03, 06:44 AM	#10
letsel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 26	Gainward Golden Sample 5900 Ultra 256mb. 2d flickering. 3d flickering. Not all 2d applications though, same as 3d.

08-06-03, 08:33 AM	#11
Clay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,992	No Flickering No flickering. Card: BFG 5900 Ultra System Specs: AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 1.825GHz - Thouroughbred Revision A (AIUGA) ENERMAX EG465P-VE(FCA) 431W Power Supply EPoX 8K3A+ (8K3A2B01 BIOS) Samsung PC2700 (220 K4H560383D-TCB3) DDR SDRAM (1) 512MB DIMM Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 40GB 7200RPM ATA-133 Hard Disk Drive (2) Hitachi CM721FB CRT Monitor - 19-Inch / 85Hz Refresh Rate BFG Technologies Asylum GeForce FX 5900 Ultra - 256MB NVIDIA Detonator XP Driver Version 44.03 VIA Hyperion 4in1 v4.48 drivers 32-Bit Color / Onboard Sound / Vsync Disabled Windows XP Professional w/ Service Pack 1 / DirectX 9b

08-06-03, 12:57 PM	#12
BB NVPR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 11	We have become aware that both NVIDIA and competitor’s cards are experiencing similar problems that are described as “flickering”, “rolling lines” or “quivering” in different forum posts. Here are a couple of examples: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...threadid=15467 http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...0&pagenumber=1 NVIDIA has been investigating these problems; we are having a difficult time reproducing the issue. We are under the impression it is a noise issue, not a graphics card issue and is system specific. In an effort to find a solution, we ask that anyone in the Bay area who is experiencing this issue on an NVIDIA GPU and would like to visit NVIDIA with the system in tow contact us. We can use the system to identify the problem and see if we can resolve the issue. You will be doing a favor to NVIDIA and a service to the community. We will also make sure you leave with an arm full of NVIDIA swag! First come first served! We can not look at every system in the Bay area, sorry. Contact bburke@nvidia.com. __________________ Brian Burke NVIDIA Corp.

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