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Old 01-21-04, 08:44 PM   #1
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Question Where's my 3D support?

I've got Mandrake 9.0 professional edition running on my computer. I have an nVidia GeForce (not sure which one), and dlded the Linux driver and followed the instructions, hoping to get 3D support.

Before, SuSE warned me each time I tried to run a 3D program, and if I went ahead, I got choppy performance. Now I don't get the warning, but I still get choppy performance. The computer is 2.4 GHz with just under a meg of ram, so I don't think that's the issue.

The previous owner was running CounterStrike under XP, so I know it should work.

Anybody want to throw out some thoughts?
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Post the output of the following commands:
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Whoops, it got screwed up during the upload. Here we go again.
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You have:
nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] rev 162

Complete the other info I asked for or I can't help you much. I doubt you're running with AGP enabled.
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XF86Config (I'm posting this from a Windoze machine, so my apologies if its garbled):

# /.../
# SaX generated XFree86 config file
# Created on: 2004-01-17T18:06:37-0800.
#
# Version: 4.7
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2002
#
# Automatically generated by [SaX2] (4.7)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS0"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS1"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS2"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS3"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS4"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS5"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS6"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS7"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS8"
InputDevices "/dev/psaux"
InputDevices "/dev/logibm"
InputDevices "/dev/sunmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/atibm"
InputDevices "/dev/amigamouse"
InputDevices "/dev/atarimouse"
InputDevices "/dev/inportbm"
InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
InputDevices "/dev/mouse"
InputDevices "/dev/usbmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/adbmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
InputDevices "/dev/input/event0"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer0"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer1"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer2"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer3"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "type1"
Load "speedo"
Load "freetype"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "v4l"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "Keyboard"
Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
Option "Protocol" "Standard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "ps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
HorizSync 31-48
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "1024X768@60HZ"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "--> VESA"
VertRefresh 50-60
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
Modeline "1024x768" 62.35 1024 1056 1184 1312 768 772 776 792 -HSync -VSync
EndSection


Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce4 Ti 4200"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "NVidia"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
Device "Device[0]"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Screen "Screen[0]"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
EndSection
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Command line output:

William@linux:~> glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.3
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_ARB_multisample
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 Ti 4200/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!/forceSW
OpenGL version string: 1.4.1 NVIDIA 53.28
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample,
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters,
GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object,
GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_S3_s3tc,
GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs,
GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texture3D,
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip,
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_fence,
GL_NV_fog_distance, GL_NV_light_max_exponent,
GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint, GL_NV_occlusion_query,
GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil, GL_NV_pixel_data_range, GL_NV_point_sprite,
GL_NV_register_combiners, GL_NV_register_combiners2,
GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc,
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texture_shader,
GL_NV_texture_shader2, GL_NV_texture_shader3, GL_NV_vertex_array_range,
GL_NV_vertex_array_range2, GL_NV_vertex_program, GL_NV_vertex_program1_1,
GL_NVX_ycrcb, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_multitexture,
GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow,
GL_SUN_slice_accum
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x21 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x22 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x23 16 tc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x24 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x25 16 tc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x26 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x27 16 tc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x28 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 2 1 Ncon
0x29 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 4 1 Ncon
0x2a 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 2 1 Ncon
0x2b 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 4 1 Ncon
0x2c 16 dc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x2d 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x2e 16 dc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x2f 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x30 16 dc 0 16 0 r . . 5 6 5 0 0 0 0 16 16 16 16 0 0 None
0x31 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 2 1 Ncon
0x32 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 16 16 16 16 4 1 Ncon
0x33 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 2 1 Ncon
0x34 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 4 1 Ncon
William@linux:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
Status: Enabled
Driver: AGPGART
AGP Rate: 4x
Fast Writes: Disabled
SBA: Disabled
William@linux:~> cat /proc/driver/nvidia/cards/0
Model: GeForce4 Ti 4200
IRQ: 10
Video BIOS: 04.25.00.30.00
Card Type: AGP
William@linux:~>
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Alright, it appears you've configured fine, and I don't see anything wrong with the openGL setup. Glad to see the card is running with agp enabled. So its on to possible tweaks to help. Have you tried using the nvidia agp module rather than agpgart? Do that by adding the NvAGP option:

Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce4 Ti 4200"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "NvAGP" "1"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "NVidia"
EndSection

Try using GKRellM to watch cpu usage while running simple openGL apps, use 'top' or 'vmstat' to track what processes are using the cpu loads. This isn't a precise way to 'benchmark' what is happening but can give you great clues.
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I tried the change, and I don't see any results. (Scared the heck out of me when I did something wrong the first time and X wouldn't start again. Luckily I had a backup.)

Armagatron can only give me 1 frame per second (when it first starts a game I can get 4 frames per second, but over about three seconds it slows down to 1), and my overall cpu usage spikes to 100%.

Under top I see that Armagetron when running sucks up ~98% of the CPU time (with top taking the rest!). I also see that I have plenty of memory free, so it's CPU usage that's the issue.
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My best guess is that you're actually running software through Mesa libGL, rather than being linked to the accelerated libraries. The driver is supposed to change all the linking necessary, however you can check the files it installs manually, making sure the soft links point to the right library files. nVidia's readme describes the files installed and where they should be, so check that out. Check the contents of /usr/lib for GL related files:

ls -alF /usr/lib/*GL*

If you have packages installed for Mesa libGL, you might remove them and reinstall.
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Not sure if this will help, but you might want to try running the nVidia installer with --opengl-headers.
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A search for packages containing the name "Mesa" on my system turned up a whole bunch of stuff.

I'm wondering if I should just uninstall all of it, or are there certain packages I should leave? (After screwing up X by setting the config file funny, I'm a little hesitent about just deleting stuff, even though I can get it back from the CD.)

Here's the packages I pulled up (minus the packages that are just documentation):

mesaglut-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

XFree86-Mesa-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut
group: System/Libraries

XFree86-Mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

XFree86-Mesa-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut
group: System/Libraries

XFree86-Mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

XFree86-Mesa-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

mesaglut
group: System/Libraries

XFree86-Mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

XFree86-Mesa-devel
group: Development/Libraries/X11

mesa
group: System/Libraries

mesaglut
group: System/Libraries

XFree86-Mesa
group: System/Libraries

Thanks a lot.
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