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Old 11-24-02, 11:56 AM   #1
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Default FSAA MODE 6 and 7 Benchmarks

As you've read on the frontpage, there is a mode 7 fsaa option availible. I've ran some benchmarks with 3dmark with det 41.03 with the new mode 6 and 7 fsaa. according to b3d posters, mode 6 seems to be 6xs and mode 7 is 8x aa.

3dmark2k1 mode 6 fsaa no af: 3029 3dmarks

3dmark2k1 mode 7 fsaa no af: 2377 3dmarks

mode 7 is amazing..there are no jaggies what so ever, i guess this is what it feels like to be a r9700 owner. mode 6 is good but there is the occasional jaggie but its still excellent. i can't wait to see how fast these modes run on a geforcefx.

and if your wondering how to enable these new fsaa, with 40.71 you can use rivatuner power user settings with the 40.71 database.

with 41.03 go into the registry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Video\{B9B56AF6-1EA8-45AB-8743-8281A3589695}\0000\D3D_70835937=7

that last number can be from 0-7. numbers are concurrent with fsaa modes.
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Could you benchmark with 4xS ( mode 5 ) and 4x ( mode 3 ) too please?

That way we could see the performance drop compared to those AA modes...

If the NV30 supports a fast Mode 7, that would certainly be superior to the R300's 6X AA - But such a thing as "fast 8X AA" doesn't exist I fear


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ok here are the scores, the percentage drop is next to the score compared to default score.

no aa: 11093 100%

mode 3 or 4x aa: 5706 -48.6%

mode 4 or 4x quincunx: 5108 3dmarks -54.0%

mode 5 or 4xs aa: 5258 3dmarks -52.6%

mode 6 or "8x": 3029 3dmarks -72.7%

mode 7 or "6xs": 2377 3dmarks -78.6%

my bad, it seems as though mode 7 is 6xs, and mode 6 is 8x.

just ran 3dmark at 6xs with 8x af. the best looking slideshow ever
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Old 11-24-02, 03:37 PM   #4
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Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the benchmark! Not sure if Mode 6 and Mode 7 are really 6xS and 8x, but I guess that'll be a looong debate

Also, I'd rather guess Mode 7 is 8xS and Mode 6 6xS - quality of Mode 7 is *significantly* better than the Mode 6 quality in the tube demo ( and, no, I'm not saying this from screenshots, but from actually trying the demo with those AA modes )

If Mode 7 *is* 8xS, performance decreases very linearly - it's a little more than half 4xS

Also, this whole thing that 8xS ( or at least 8X ) *is* in the NV20 may mean that...

The aniso optimization you get with RivaTuner IS what nVidia is talking about for the NV30. Maybe just a little more fine tuned.

But then again, that whole idea of mine should be in the rumor mill


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Old 11-24-02, 04:35 PM   #5
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If the NV30 supports a fast Mode 7, that would certainly be superior to the R300's 6X AA - But such a thing as "fast 8X AA" doesn't exist I fear


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Ordered Grid 8X MS/SS superior to true sparse sample 6X RGMS? I don't think so. 8X OGMS is only slightly better in theory than 4X RGMS. The only benefit will be the light texture antialiasing from the 2X SS portion.
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Enable D3D_AntiAliasConvolutionFastMode and then come back and tell us the results of your findings. You should easily get a 10% boost on average. Image quality will degrade slightly on the far edges of your screen(more jaggies) but usually unnoticable with these current 40.72 drivers than with early 30 series drivers. These(24-30 series) caused severe purple artifacts on GF4s and a slight "mesh" artifact for GF3s.
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too lazy, add 10% to those scores than

i just don't know about that..lower iq for 10% performance. i realize its not noticable but if ati is not doing it, than i won't. plus i don't like lowering iq, just doesn't bode well with me.
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Ordered Grid 8X MS/SS superior to true sparse sample 6X RGMS? I don't think so. 8X OGMS is only slightly better in theory than 4X RGMS. The only benefit will be the light texture antialiasing from the 2X SS portion.
Screenshots seem to indicate otherwise.
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too lazy, add 10% to those scores than

i just don't know about that..lower iq for 10% performance. i realize its not noticable but if ati is not doing it, than i won't. plus i don't like lowering iq, just doesn't bode well with me.
Heh, sorry when you said you don't like "lowering image quality" then why in your sig do you have "No Lod Adjustments, No AF, No AA", isnt that concidered lowered image quality?
Sorry, I just had to harp about that. Seems ironic to me.
Just seems like such a cool guy as yourself who is such a stickler for image quality would be proud of his 3dmarks with all the goodies on, at least thats what it seems.
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does it say in my sig i play games at those settings ? i play ALL my games with 2x quincunx and 4x af and i'm proud to say i get somewhere around 7000 3dmarks.
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does it say in my sig i play games at those settings ? i play ALL my games with 2x quincunx and 4x af and i'm proud to say i get somewhere around 7000 3dmarks.
Exactly , thank you for making my point even more clear.
It was a suggestion to try the conv. mode in the benchmarks, just as you did for 3dmark, doesnt mean you ALWAYS have to play with it on. Ironically, it does help in games where the AA causes a mean hit, and your willing to sacrifice minor to unnoticable loss in quality(in areas of the screen you may never see) to gain the fps. Thats my point , and it just seems you misunderstood.
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does it say in my sig i play games at those settings ? i play ALL my games with 2x quincunx and 4x af and i'm proud to say i get somewhere around 7000 3dmarks.
quincunx is only 2xaa? Ive always thought its 4xaa
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