US Army major kills 13, injures 30 at Fort Hood

[munkus]

What I don't get is why the media always focuses on the perpetrator with tragedies like this. "Why did he do it?" "What made him tick?"...yadda yadda. What about the victims? Their names aren't in the headlines but they deserve more of our mental and emotional energy than the scumbag who killed them.

[bob saget]

Originally Posted by munkus

What I don't get is why the media always focuses on the perpetrator with tragedies like this.

Really? No seriously, really?
You focus on the perp so that terrible, nightmarish thing like this doesn't happen again. The perp is the cause of all this. We remember the victims, obviously, but the people in charge need to assess why the perp did what he did.
9/11 --> You got Osama and some of his friends. Etc etc. Doesn't mean the victims are in any way forgotten, its just the energy needs to be spent fixing/analyzing what went wrong.

[vampireuk]

Originally Posted by Capt. Picard

I would like to know more detail about this shooting. Because, for pete's sake, if I were a trained soldier and gunshots start clapping nearby I would take evasive action as if a deranged Muslim were on my heels.

For OPSEC reasons I'm not going to go into the security of our barracks, but needless to say it would be far too easy for somebody to attack them.

[munkus]

Originally Posted by bob saget

Really? No seriously, really?
You focus on the perp so that terrible, nightmarish thing like this doesn't happen again. The perp is the cause of all this. We remember the victims, obviously, but the people in charge need to assess why the perp did what he did.
9/11 --> You got Osama and some of his friends. Etc etc. Doesn't mean the victims are in any way forgotten, its just the energy needs to be spent fixing/analyzing what went wrong.

My point was that, in the process of finding out what makes the perpetrator tick, they often paint him as the victim. He was harassed, etc, as if that excuses the attacks. If harassment is the cause, then what are the people in charge gonna do? Enact Muslim sensitivity training so we don't upset the Muslims? How would you prevent this kind of thing from happening again? You can't.

[bob saget]

Originally Posted by munkus

My point was that, in the process of finding out what makes the perpetrator tick, they often paint him as the victim. He was harassed, etc, as if that excuses the attacks. If harassment is the cause, then what are the people in charge gonna do? Enact Muslim sensitivity training so we don't upset the Muslims? How would you prevent this kind of thing from happening again? You can't.

gotcha.
I cant even begin to think how to prevent this kind of thing.

[bloodsmasher]

Originally Posted by munkus

My point was that, in the process of finding out what makes the perpetrator tick, they often paint him as the victim. He was harassed, etc, as if that excuses the attacks. If harassment is the cause, then what are the people in charge gonna do? Enact Muslim sensitivity training so we don't upset the Muslims? How would you prevent this kind of thing from happening again? You can't.

So making it clear, that if you push people around enough they might snap, is a bad thing now? If you don't know the cause of something, you can never prevent it. (at least not intentionally)

Yes you can prevent this sort of thing. It's done all the time, but people NOT killing other people is seldom considered news. (I did not kill Darth Rancid today for example. If i had brutally maimed and also killed him for forcing me to walk for 40 minutes instead of taking the subway, you might have heard about it. But now you haven't... through the news at least. It was prevented by my parents bringing me up in a way that made me think that sort of acts are crappy and made me able to repress that kind of urges, even under extreme stress)

[bob saget]

Originally Posted by bloodsmasher

So making it clear, that if you push people around enough they might snap, is a bad thing now? If you don't know the cause of something, you can never prevent it. (at least not intentionally)

Yes you can prevent this sort of thing. It's done all the time, but people NOT killing other people is seldom considered news. (I did not kill Darth Rancid today for example. If i had brutally maimed and also killed him for forcing me to walk for 40 minutes instead of taking the subway, you might have heard about it. But now you haven't... through the news at least. It was prevented by my parents bringing me up in a way that made me think that sort of acts are crappy and made me able to repress that kind of urges, even under extreme stress)

He made you walk 40 mins? and you DIDN'T do anything?
I respect your restraint.

[bloodsmasher]

Originally Posted by bob saget

He made you walk 40 mins? and you DIDN'T do anything?
I respect your restraint.

Thank you. Your respect makes it worth it :P

[Darth Rancid]

Originally Posted by bloodsmasher

(I did not kill Darth Rancid today for example. If i had brutally maimed and also killed him for forcing me to walk for 40 minutes instead of taking the subway, you might have heard about it. But now you haven't... through the news at least. It was prevented by my parents bringing me up in a way that made me think that sort of acts are crappy and made me able to repress that kind of urges, even under extreme stress)

You nailed my head to the floor once we got back to your place!...



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[Ghosthunter]

Originally Posted by Zelda_fan

and wtf is Obama's deal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM

He gives a "shout out" to his friend and starts talking about the news conference that they just had? WTF? A little inappropriate when he should be talking about something 10x as important. It's like he's in god damn highschool or something.

expect anything else from Barack Hussein Obama?

[Tyr-Sog]

Question here is why no one kicks these guys asses. God have we become weak.

[General Lee]

Originally Posted by Tyr-Sog

Question here is why no one kicks these guys asses. God have we become weak.

Because they have the freedom of speech that protects them. With that said, just because you can do or something, doesn't mean you should. These sort of people are probably no different than the psycho that murdered all those people at Ft. Hood. They deserve to have their asses kicked. I hope next time they stand out on the street, and few Marines or other service members stop by and paint the sidewalk with their blood.