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Old 11-05-07, 01:50 PM   #13
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This was an xbox 360 port. I don't see why anyone was expecting any better.
I agree.
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Old 11-05-07, 01:56 PM   #14
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Old 11-05-07, 02:02 PM   #15
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if this is ported as good as lost planet or bioshock then I am happy.
and yeah those games are GOOD pclized.
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Old 11-05-07, 02:07 PM   #16
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This was an xbox 360 port. I don't see why anyone was expecting any better.
Well, maybe we are expecting 120 fps at 1600 x 1200 . Or 200 fps



limited at 60 fps and the average is 57 - 58 fps . And in DX 10, the average is 40- 45 fps , but with drops at 30 and 25 fps . Bad port with the double resolution of the 360 , better textures, AF and more AA .
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Old 11-05-07, 02:15 PM   #17
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Well lucky me, seems this game chokes on anything above medium textures on my card.

I find it hard to believe it's limited to my 320MB since it also happened in their test with a 2900 512MB as well.

Hopefully it's a driver issue or something that just needs to be patched.

I'm officially waiting until some other 320MB users report their performance before I go out and get this. Not when I can grab COD4 instead and Area 51 in 7 days.
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Old 11-05-07, 02:19 PM   #18
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Looks like some people are also forgetting, the unreal3 engine is DX9. It looks like the only reason they put in the DX10 was for AA support. However the xbox360 is dx9 as far as all the functions go, and afaik MS requires all games to use AA, so why couldnt dx9 mode use aa?

The performance hit in DX10on mode does bring up some questions though, hopefully the ever talkable Epic will reveal why we are seeing said performance hits. As much as I don't consider this a dx10 game in anyway, I do wonder why its dx10 mode is slower. On the other hand it may be another driver issue, and maybe nvidia will pull up another beta that will smooth out performance, maybe even doing something to force the game into the dx9 path (when the game is set to dx10) yet allowing AA still.

Its interesting to note the GTX provided much better performance with AA on, is this due to the bigger data bus?
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Old 11-05-07, 02:22 PM   #19
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The motion blur in Gears of War is excellent, so 30-40fps is very playable. There seems to be almost an artificial ceiling in the performance of GoW@[H] because it usually hits around 65 but never higher.
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The motion blur in Gears of War is excellent, so 30-40fps is very playable. There seems to be almost an artificial ceiling in the performance of GoW@[H] because it usually hits around 65 but never higher.
A rendering cap of 62 FPS according to the INI file, UT3 has the same.
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Old 11-05-07, 02:55 PM   #21
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A rendering cap of 62 FPS according to the INI file, UT3 has the same.
I'm sure you can turn that crap off, just as you can in UT3. But I guess a game like GoW doesn't need 100 FPS. The UT series does though. Can't frag if the game's not fluid.
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I dont consider it a bad port, its just dx10 that is doing the damage, when the game is not optimized for dx10 that is what happens. I have heard enough people hating console ports, lost planet is faster under dx10 and bioshock is also pretty close in performance whether its dx10 or dx9.

and if I am playing at 1920x1200 and I can turn everything to max, I really dont care about AA, dont need it at more than 1080p.
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I guess the biggest let down of DX10 were the joke statements from just before the release of the 8800 cards that DX10 would allow for improved visual effects and increased frame rates. Umm...not.

Looks like the 8800 series is a DX10 "starter" card and the real performance will come in its replacement.
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Old 11-05-07, 04:01 PM   #24
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I guess the biggest let down of DX10 were the joke statements from just before the release of the 8800 cards that DX10 would allow for improved visual effects and increased frame rates. Umm...not.

Looks like the 8800 series is a DX10 "starter" card and the real performance will come in its replacement.
I said this back when the 8800 hit and everyone laughed at me.

dx9 was too strong for 9700/9800 pro's, took the next-gen to get decent frames on a game like far cry with aa/af.

8800 is overkill for dx9 and too weak for dx10.

I just want to know what happened when epic said they would only use dx10 for speedy shader purposes, I see nothing in dx10 showing any speed.
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