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Old 11-21-07, 04:19 PM   #13
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Default Re: Anyone seen the 1080p panasonic plasmas?

yeah see I won't be gaming any/if at all on the TV so it's not a huge deal.
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Old 11-21-07, 04:31 PM   #14
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Default Re: Anyone seen the 1080p panasonic plasmas?

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The reasoning was because Plasma tvs still have issues with burn in (there is a thread on that around here somewhere), but as your not typically watching programs that cause the issues, it shoulden't be a problem.
True to a certain degree, but they all have built-in pixel orbiters now, that reduces the burn-in considerably. Unless you really want to play "pong" at the brightest setting for days, then buy a LCD.
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Old 11-21-07, 11:44 PM   #15
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There was a good article in a recent magazine that actually test a crap load of TV at True 1080i settings. I was shocke dby how many failed and how so few passed.

Most of these new TV's say 1080 on them but that is only for Still pictures. Do some research. Only a handfull in each brand passed. I believe the Sony had the most. Happy shopping.
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Old 11-22-07, 12:01 AM   #16
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I've seen both side by side and i prefer the PQ of the 700u.
The 700u has an anti-reflective screen, and the pz77u has an anti-glare coating (LCD like).
So anti-glare works better in bright rooms, anti-reflective is better for dark rooms.
Everybody knows that the contrast ratio rating is baloney.
No, contrast ratio is going to have a HUGE impact on the picture. It is a ratio of the difference between the darkest darks and the brightest brights.

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So anti-glare works better in bright rooms, anti-reflective is better for dark rooms.
I think that is the other way around. Anti-glare screens are going to be sharper because they use a glossy screen, but they don't stop all glare, they just make it much darker, and it can still be an annoyance if you have any lights on. Anti-reflective on the other hand eliminates all glare in any lighting, however since the screen isn't flat (on the microscopic level) like an anti-glare screen, there is slightly more optical diffraction, resulting in a picture that isn't as sharp.

You can't really say one is better than the other, as each has its trade off.
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Old 11-22-07, 12:03 AM   #17
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There was a good article in a recent magazine that actually test a crap load of TV at True 1080i settings. I was shocke dby how many failed and how so few passed.
I think you mean true 1080p, and yeah there are a ton of TV's that fail this. Ironically, pretty much all of the TV's made by the little known brand westinghouse can pass a true 1080p picture. There are a few sharps that can as well.
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Old 11-22-07, 12:09 AM   #18
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yeah that is the article. True 1080P, they even tried some TV's at 1080i. Yeah I was surprised with the westinghouse. I was also suprised with the Sharp. But it seemed alot of the sony's passed? even some of the cheaper sony models. Heck I even seen one of the models that passed on sale at Walmart last week. LOL. Hopefully HD becomes more prominent. I love HD shows. The picture and sound is amazing. I tend to avoid the standard def stations now. And hockey has never looked so good.
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yeah that is the article. True 1080P, they even tried some TV's at 1080i. Yeah I was surprised with the westinghouse. I was also suprised with the Sharp. But it seemed alot of the sony's passed? even some of the cheaper sony models. Heck I even seen one of the models that passed on sale at Walmart last week. LOL. Hopefully HD becomes more prominent. I love HD shows. The picture and sound is amazing. I tend to avoid the standard def stations now. And hockey has never looked so good.
I haven't read that particular article, but that had to have been the recent Sony models though. I used to be trying to find TV's like this a year and a half ago and it was impossible to find any, except for the westinghouse TV's. There was one JVC that did this, but you had to remove a little adapter it had that allowed for multiple inputs, essentially reducing the TV to only one input.

I think somebody actually started a class action lawsuit over this, because manufacturers were advertising 1080p but you could only send a 1080i signal to it, and it would do a bob deinterlace which essentially gives you a 1920x540 picture.
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Wow that's interesting. I didn't hear about that. But I can see why. You spend alot of cash on a 1080 tv and realize most time you get 1366X768 lol.. Yet it clearly states on the item, 1080. lol..
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As far as I have read there is no standard for measuring contrast ratios so in essence the specs listed for many tvs are very misleading.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/spec-wars...ses-259495.php
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As far as I have read there is no standard for measuring contrast ratios so in essence the specs listed for many tvs are very misleading.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/spec-wars...ses-259495.php
And this is true, however when you are dealing with the same brand, usually they are measured the same. Not always, but most of the time. Thus in this situation, it definitely applies here.

This is why before I buy a TV, I will look for a detailed review from a third party. Often times these reviews will include somebody doing actual measurements of response time, contrast ratio, etc.
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Yes I agree reviews are the best things to check into when looking to purchase items such as these.
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Default Re: Anyone seen the 1080p panasonic plasmas?

hmmm... I wonder if the panasonics fall into this misrepresentation.

Anyways, I talked to my dad last night and he told me HHgreg is running a 20% off sale and no interest for like 3 years. It looks like we'll have a bit more money to spend on the TV from the no interest so I'm thinking of stepping up the size to around 46" and $1600~1700 price.

What are some highly rated 46 inchers in that price range?
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