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Old 11-22-07, 01:45 AM   #25
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My only problem with Crysis preformance is in a few very specific areas of the Core level.It tanks (sungle digits) but only for seconds at a time,and not often.It might just be my system,I am not sure.
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Old 11-22-07, 02:05 AM   #26
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My only problem with Crysis preformance is in a few very specific areas of the Core level.It tanks (sungle digits) but only for seconds at a time,and not often.It might just be my system,I am not sure.
Mine tanked big time there... that's when I played DX9 for a while... it was much better framerate-wise... then back to DX10 when I went down the mountain.
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Old 11-22-07, 02:58 AM   #27
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It is quite evident you have not followed the developement of Crysis very well. Yerli himself has stated quite some time ago that running Crysis at the absolute highest settings will be virtually impossible on current generation hardware. They did this intentionally... why? Because that is what *PC Gaming* is all about.

You cited FarCry and your 6800 Ultra- you fail to realise one flaw about that analogy:

The top cards at the time of FarCry's release were the Radeon 9800XT and GeForceFX 5950U. NEITHER of those cards could run FarCry at high resolutions, with high AA and AF, and all in-game options maxed. Only the *next generation cards*- meaning the GF 6800s and Radeon x800s could. And even then, the 6800Ultra *could not* run FarCry with the sparse "beta" 1.4 patch that enables HDR- the game tanked. I know this cause my 6800GT @ just beyond Ultra clocks would tank. My setup at that time was an A64 3700, 1GB DDR400- more than sufficient for FarCry. Maybe dual 6800Ultras would have a chance, but not a single one.

My point: your 6800Ultra was considered "next-generation" at the time of FarCry's release- so to compare it to Crysis which is targeted at "next-generation" products while complaining about its performance on current-gen products is rather ignorant, no offense.

Do some research on the developement of Crysis and you'll see that you're grossly over-estimating the power of the 8800s. Crysis is coded nearly as efficiently as it can be when referring to it highest visual settings- no computer has the horsepower to handle that is the issue. This *is* how PC-Gaming *should* be. If you don't like it, stick to consoles.

Furthermore, I question your validity in regards to your knowledge about custom-building PCs. To this day no computer can run Oblivion at high resolutions, with high AA, and all in-game options maxed and never dip to lower FPSs. This very thing was discussed for near 50 pages in another thread here not too long ago. Yes, even the highest and most powerful of rigs are still brought to their knees by Oblivion at literaly the highest settings possible for that game. And it isn't all due to bad coding, a lot of it is that the computing power just is not there yet. Again, this is a good thing- it is what drives innovation in the PC market. If you really don't like it and can't stand it- then stick to console. And that's not intended as an insult, that is an honest suggestion as my attempt to guide you towards a hobby that will cause you the least frustration and lack of enjoyment.
lol, don't be too seriously, I'm not that kind of people that will be "frustration" or "crying" when I can't run a game smoothly, and if I like console I would have bought them long time ago, what I'm going to say is that I don't consider the "HIGH" setting as the "MAX" setting, because it is not the "Highest" one, and yes, the point is that my 8800GTX can't even run smoothly under the "HIGH" setting (in another words, not even playable), is that the game really that powerful to make my 8800gtx fall on the ground like an old man? even on the HIGH setting?

And yes I can running everything on MAX in TES4, and the game runs smoothly, it's true, but you need to set the view distance to the medium distance or lower according your system.
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Old 11-22-07, 06:19 AM   #28
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umm since when was 23 FPS even considered playable? WTF is the matter with you guys?!!?!
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I can't understand why there all getting erections over running the game at min settings on a min spec machine....

Surely it wouldv'e been more appreciated if we saw 60-90 fps at high settings with todays high end machines.

lol tbh.
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Old 11-22-07, 07:21 AM   #29
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I can't understand why there all getting erections over running the game at min settings on a min spec machine....

Surely it wouldv'e been more appreciated if we saw 60-90 fps at high settings with todays high end machines.

lol tbh.
Wow, did you even bother to read what Redeemed and Madpistol posted?
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Old 11-22-07, 07:31 AM   #30
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I can quite honestly say, I've never played a game a smooth as Crysis. Playing crysis at an average of 27fps is WAY smoother than say Stalker which I could get twice the average frame rates, yet it would stutter and stall making the whole experience feel like I was getting frame rates in the teens.

Why can't people understand that, just because you have the latest, highest performing hardware (which is already a year old) that you should be able to play at very high settings. Would anyone be bitching about performance if Crytek had made the high or very high settings equivalent to medium. Yes, the graphics wouldn't have as much of the wow factor as they do at the highest settings we get now, but IMO, even at medium, the game still looks amazing.

One other thing, games like this are the driving force in the graphics hardware industry. If all devs made games that would play at highest levels of detail with AA and High res there would be no need for nvidia or AMD to push out higher performing parts. I just see Crytek pushing the boundaries a bit further than most developers, and I for one, salute them for it.

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lol, don't be too seriously, I'm not that kind of people that will be "frustration" or "crying" when I can't run a game smoothly, and if I like console I would have bought them long time ago, what I'm going to say is that I don't consider the "HIGH" setting as the "MAX" setting, because it is not the "Highest" one, and yes, the point is that my 8800GTX can't even run smoothly under the "HIGH" setting (in another words, not even playable), is that the game really that powerful to make my 8800gtx fall on the ground like an old man? even on the HIGH setting?
Are you running on a Pentium D? My E6600 runs Crysis very smoothly on high settings. Heck, I've played through 90% of the game with the "Ultra high" settings enabled, and I haven't had one complaint about it yet. The game is drop dead gorgeous. Even though I'm getting between 10-20 fps, the game has been totally playable from start to finish. Seriously, if your system is tanking on the high setting with an 8800 GTX, something is wrong.

Like others have said, I do consider 23 fps playable because Crysis is so freakin smooth. I've never played a new game that runs this smoothly from the beginning of its existance. It's so aparent that the programmers at Crytek have put so many man hours into making this game a classic, and they've done it. I wish Call of Duty ran this smoothly @ 45-60fps, but it doesn't. It honestly feels like I'm playing this game on a highend console because the game runs so smoothly. It DOESN'T feel like I'm playing this game on a Media Center PC with 250GB of other programs installed, all of them competing for processing power. For that reason, I absolutely adore this game.
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If you play Crysis on the lowest settings, you might as well just play FarCry lol.
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I can't recall any other game being playable and actually smooth at 19fps.
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IMO, Crysis @ lowest settings looks a lot better than Far Cry @ highest settings.

Far Cry @ Lowest settings, 800x600


Far Cry @ Highest settings 800x600 (4xaa, 8xaf)


Crysis @ Lowest settings, 800x600, object detail medium
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Wow, did you even bother to read what Redeemed and Madpistol posted?
No i posted with my eyes shut
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Old 11-22-07, 09:47 AM   #36
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I can't recall any other game being playable and actually smooth at 19fps.

While I will agree that Crysis is smoother than any other game I have played in the 30fps range I have to say that some of you guys are getting a bit ridiculous with this ****. 19FPS? please.
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