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Old 12-21-07, 08:00 PM   #25
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Default Re: 169.07 Ubuntu 7.10 Fan at %100

same problem for me with 169.07 on opensuse 10.3 and fedora 8(8800GT)
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Old 12-21-07, 08:36 PM   #26
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Default Re: 169.07 Ubuntu 7.10 Fan at %100

Same here, 8800 GTS w/ ubuntu 7.10.

Noise aside, isn't this very bad for the motor to be on its max setting for extended amounts of time (read: possibly damaging to the card)?

Nvidia fix asap please!
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Old 12-21-07, 08:57 PM   #27
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ditto, fan problem here with ubuntu 7.10 and 8800GT.
kernel 2.6.22-14

Does nvidia not test these drivers? how can a bug this major get into a stable release? as soon as the driver loaded I could tell there was a problem you'd have to be deaf not to notice......

Oh well back to 169.04
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Old 12-22-07, 03:54 AM   #28
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Same problem here.

System: ASUS EN 8800 GT w/ 512 MB RAM, Gigabyte GA-55plus-S3G, Athlon 64 5200+, openSuSE 10.2 32-bit

169.04 BETA worked fine, after installing 169.07 the fan stays at max speed.

lspci -v

Code:
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0611 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8260
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 233
        Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        I/O ports at a000 [size=128]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at f5000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: <access denied>
Code:
mercy@blubber:~> uname -a
Linux blubber 2.6.18.8-0.7-default #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 17:21:08 UTC 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
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Old 12-22-07, 05:25 AM   #29
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Does nvidia not test these drivers? how can a bug this major get into a stable release?
I can understand that when testing in a testlab, and not specifically watching for this problem, you would not notice that. In a quiet home, this kind of thing is much more noticable.

However, I should note that on my XFX 6600GT card I have *never* noticed the fan spinning slower at any driver version and I have always used nvclock -f -F 90 to set it to 90% (which is much quieter and does not cause any real temp increase). I suspect the thermal conductivity between chip and heatsink is very bad on this card, though.

The 8500GT card in my new system is fanless.
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Old 12-22-07, 07:21 AM   #30
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Downgrading to 169.04 is a terrible idea, this driver is superior in every way besides the fan thing. Try running compiz fusion on .04, its a joke.
169.07 is better? How exactly? It seems identical to me, at least on an 8800GT -- animations are still horribly jerky, and all transparencies still gradually fade to opaque (particularly apparent -- and ugly -- with the resize plugin). Performance on an 8800GT is still far, far worse than performance on the old 100.14 drivers on a 7900GS, which is a bit of a shame as I was hoping to show off an awesome Compiz desktop this Christmas, but these drivers are going to make Compiz look crap unless I downgrade my graphics card!

Still, it's quite impressive that they've released new stable drivers at all this close to Christmas, so I don't think I have any right to complain.

Thanks to the folks who recommended nvclock, I can confirm that it works a treat to fix the fan problem. (I've added it to /etc/gdm/Init/Default so I only get a second of jet-engine each time... obviously this is a bad idea, but my sanity is worth more than the price of a new graphics card if this one breaks!)
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Old 12-22-07, 11:30 AM   #31
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As for nvclock, a good idea but unlikely to work for the brand new 512 8800GT/GTS
CVS nvclock works like a charm with the GT.
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Old 12-23-07, 01:42 AM   #32
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I can confirm the fan bug, but otherwise this driver totally kicks @ss on a 8800gt. Please nvidia bring out a quick fix for the fan.
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Old 12-23-07, 09:36 AM   #33
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I can confirm the same thing as everyone else, fan at 100% under Fedora 8 with a 8800GT 512MB.
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Old 12-23-07, 11:06 PM   #34
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Thanks again for reporting this problem. The cause of the regression was identified, the bug should be resolved in future graphics driver releases.
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Old 12-23-07, 11:24 PM   #35
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Oh the nvclock does work for the 8800GT512? sweet I will try to build that next time i'm on.

As for compiz, I don't know the specifics of your PC devrandom, but for me it ran MUCH smoother than .04.. though maybe not exactly as smooth as 100.14. I didn't benchmark the performance but there was no serious hiccups when maximizing windows, tabbing or anything else. I was also able to play a long game of TF2 (running in wine) with no serious performance issue, only a minor annoyance of the taskbar showing overtop of the game.

Perhaps this comes down to specific software that differs on our machines, because I'm also using the 8800 GT 512mb.

hardware: Core Duo @ 2.65ghz, 3gigs of ram, gigabyte 650i
software: kernel 2.6.22, Gentoo 64bit, Xorg-server 1.3.0.0, xorg 7.1 (i think?), compiz 0.6.2, compiz-fusion 0.6.0, gnome 2.18
Ran compiz from console with "compiz-start"
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Old 12-24-07, 04:40 AM   #36
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Thanks again for reporting this problem. The cause of the regression was identified, the bug should be resolved in future graphics driver releases.
Thanks for the release I have been waiting patiently on it to improve Compiz performance however the fan noise is completely unacceptable.

Will a future driver be released soon (days) or a month (ish) ?

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Its a long time if we have to wait more than a few days to have a fan this noisy running beside you all day. My machine is on 24/7 and is consuming more power, making more noise and less usable because of that noisy fan. If you say we have to wait more than a few days for an update, I can see me switching in an ATI card (fortunately I still have the one I removed and replaced with an NVidia) to save my sanity, electric bill and get some work done over christmas. Downgrading the driver is not an option having waited as long to see some improvement in Compiz. Swapping cards for an Ati or enabling the on-board Intel graphics card is a better option for me but speaking from personal experience this is getting a little long in the tooth now. The two top players in the graphics card market have IMHO the worst reputation for drivers and that appears to go for both windows and linux. I recently swapped to an Ati card having used Nvidia for a very long time but swapped back to Nvidia quite quickly because of the problematic setup using the Ati driver. Being on the Ati board , the grass looked much greener over here at NVidia, but I have got to tell you it is not and that we are paying a lot of money for our hardware and we are being taken for granted. Its about time you allowed others to write drivers for your hardware. There are millions of users and just not enough coders it seems writing quality drivers and utilities to support the products you already sold. You need to step up to the mark and increase the number of programmers working on drivers and utilities so as the code can be more fully tested before it is released to the public.
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