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Old 01-23-08, 07:14 PM   #25
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Default Re: 169.07 BUG: The 7 series multi core bug still exsists.

I haven't tried the new drivers yet, but switching to XGL solves every problem for me.
I'm running Gentoo on a 64-bit SMP kernel (Core2Duo) with a 7300LE card. Before switching to XGL i had lots and lots of freezes when using GLX. I won't switch back to Xorg until these bugs has been fixed, that's for sure.

I just wanted to let you guys know this.
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Old 01-23-08, 10:42 PM   #26
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I haven't tried the new drivers yet, but switching to XGL solves every problem for me.
I'm running Gentoo on a 64-bit SMP kernel (Core2Duo) with a 7300LE card. Before switching to XGL i had lots and lots of freezes when using GLX. I won't switch back to Xorg until these bugs has been fixed, that's for sure.

I just wanted to let you guys know this.
I too can bypass this freezing by using XGL instead of nvidia's compositing. However, this introduces other issues like poor full-screen video quality, suspend to ram/disk problems, instability, etc. I also can no longer use nvidia-settings when running XGL.

I would much rather nvidia actually fix this bug rather than deal with this less than ideal workaround. Unfortunately, I have yet to see an nvidia developer acknowledge the issue or even inquire for more information.
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Old 01-24-08, 12:33 AM   #27
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Default Re: 169.07 BUG: The 7 series multi core bug still exsists.

as far as I can tell the new drivers fixed the problem, for me at least

btw im running a 3800+ X2, A 7300gs, and Ubuntu 7.10
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Old 01-24-08, 11:33 AM   #28
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as far as I can tell the new drivers fixed the problem, for me at least

btw im running a 3800+ X2, A 7300gs, and Ubuntu 7.10
Congratulations!

Could it be that this release note actually relevant to us?
"Fixed a bug in the Linux/i2c algorithm driver implementation that prevented core transfer types from succeeding."

Does anyone understand exactly what that means?

I just updated to 169.09 as well. I'll enable compiz and see what happens...
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Old 01-24-08, 12:11 PM   #29
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I just updated to 169.09 as well. I'll enable compiz and see what happens...
No luck here - although I see some slightly different symptoms...
With 169.09 on a GeForce Go 7950 GTX, after about an hour of using compiz I got a series of flickers that froze X for about 5 seconds (this happened while watching a flash video on youtube), but then recovered. Flickering continues at random intervals. dmesg shows the following:

[ 1535.603584] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0000 06d0 ff1e1e72 0000292c 00000000 ff8ba1b9
[ 1535.619904] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 36, L1 -> L0
[ 1535.667852] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0000 01016100 0000008a 00000404 ff2b3977 00004000
[ 1539.673554] NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 36, L0 -> L0

Normally that a second Xid (L0 -> L0) of this nature would have froze X completely (although mouse still moves), but this time the second Xid value is slightly different. Attached is the bug report.
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Old 01-24-08, 05:13 PM   #30
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No dice...
After some time X still freezes when compiz is enabled on my GeForce Go 7950 GTX using the latest 169.09 version. I was able to remotely ssh into box and generate attached bug report.
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Old 01-25-08, 01:02 AM   #31
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Default Re: 169.07 BUG: The 7 series multi core bug still exsists.

I can confirm still getting xid's on nvidia geforce go 7400 on 169.09 drivers. Hard lockups never occur anymore though, so I'm thankful for that & whoever fixed it.

The worst I get is the black flicker of death, xid's on the kernel log, and repeated intermittent flickers until I switch to any vt and back.

not a huge deal, though it'd be nice if I could get drivers that stop faulting the GPU.

Also 169.07 would often lock completely up on X server restart. I haven't had that happen with 169.09 though I haven't been restarting X much. hopefully its gone
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Old 01-25-08, 05:27 AM   #32
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I still have the same problem with 169.09 driver.
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Old 01-25-08, 02:21 PM   #33
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it doesn't happen all the time but when it does, it causes me to go into epileptic fits. after i wipe the drool from my mouth and clean all the lamps i knocked over and shattered, i look at dmesg and see:

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NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 26, Ch 00000000 M 0000180c D 01b301cb intr 00500000
NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 1, Ch 00000000 M 0000180c D 01b301cb intr 00500000
NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 26, Ch 00000000 M 0000180c D 00fa0112 intr 00500000
NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 1, Ch 00000000 M 0000180c D 00fa0112 intr 00500000
this was just after 'service nfs restart'. it's always random but always after i execute something or complete something. it will never flicker if i just leave it sitting. surprisingly, it hasn't happened while using mplayer, my webcam/mic, or compiz. i have to restart x to recover from the flickering. surely there's a way to resynch without have to restart x?
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Old 01-27-08, 09:38 PM   #34
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I have a 7300GS PCI-E, and I first experienced the Xid/freeze/crash bug two driver releases ago. I knuckled-up and tried 169.09 today. So far, zero issues. No Xids, no freezes, no crashes. Compiz-Fusion works fine, Google Earth is fine, GLX Gears is fine. Four hours up.....and counting....

It sounds like "the bug" is still plaguing later model cards. I have been very brand loyal to Nvidia over the years, but this experience has shaken my faith. AMD's open source efforts are definitely tempting me...

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Old 01-28-08, 01:38 AM   #35
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7300 go, 169.09
crashes as usual.
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Old 01-28-08, 10:58 PM   #36
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It almost seems like the issue are primarily with the Go cards (at this point), anyone else notice that?
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