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Old 01-05-08, 10:44 PM   #85
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I really hope one of the formats will go out soon, that way we will have one format to upgrade to instead of two.
I wouldn't go hoping so far. The competition has been producing some amazing deals. I've been stocking up with these 2 for 1 deals on both formats. With HD DVD truly out of the picture you can kiss that goodbye. The way I see it, what really matters with Blu-ray and HD DVD is picture quality and sound. Both can produce the same results so I don't see why many cant be content with both. Yeah it sucks you might miss out if you have only have say a PS3 or a stand alone HD DVD player but still, the competition is driving pricing down like crazy which is better for everyone regardless of if they have both formats.
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Old 01-05-08, 11:12 PM   #86
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I wouldn't go hoping so far. The competition has been producing some amazing deals. I've been stocking up with these 2 for 1 deals on both formats. With HD DVD truly out of the picture you can kiss that goodbye. The way I see it, what really matters with Blu-ray and HD DVD is picture quality and sound. Both can produce the same results so I don't see why many cant be content with both. Yeah it sucks you might miss out if you have only have say a PS3 or a stand alone HD DVD player but still, the competition is driving pricing down like crazy which is better for everyone regardless of if they have both formats.
You've been buying both? Sounds like a waste of money. Wait it out.
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Old 01-05-08, 11:14 PM   #87
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I find Blu-ray to to be inferior. You have no idea what my thoughts are either. I am saying nothing of the sort of "if HD DVD can't succeed, there will be no HDM success". I am saying neither format is doing well, period. There is no disputing that.

As I have said ONE MILLION TIMES, but you can't seem to read, I have BOTH FORMATS and access to ALL HDM as a result.

Microsoft isn't heavily invested in HD DVD whatsoever. I don't know why you seem to think they are.
Just because blu-ray was inferior in the beginning with crappy MPEG2 encodings and less features doesn't mean it is inferior now or it'll stay inferior. In the long run we have gotten the superior format. And AVC still looks slightly better than VC-1. You seem much more invested in HD DVD as well though you say that you have both. I realize that you're probably an early adopter thus you favor HD DVD but from my perspective it looks as if you're hanging on to some old feelings.. I think it's pretty clear that Blu-ray is the best future format in the long term.

Microsoft keeps getting mentioned as Toshiba's most important partner in the HD DVD Promotion Group, they are the only visible HD DVD support aside from Toshiba so of course I think that they're pretty invested in the format, I can't see why you'd think otherwise? Especially if it turns out they have plans of release an "Xbox360 Ultimate" with build-in HD DVD drive, but I guess we'll see about that at CES.

Anyway I don't really give a **** of how much different multibillion companies loose or win over their investments unless I'm a shareholder of such. I just can't see how you can possibly convince yourself that Sony is in deep **** in conjunction to speaking about the format war. I think the PS3 is selling worse than they expected it to back when it launched and though I think everyone including analysts expected more HDM interest and sales in general, I don't think it's that bad; the PS3 has been selling very well this holiday and Blu-ray has just basically won the format war. Sony couldn't wish for a better turn of events these past couple of months and in particular the 4th of January.
Oh well as I said I don't really care much about how Sony is doing I care about what they can offer me as a consumer.

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I wouldn't go hoping so far. The competition has been producing some amazing deals. I've been stocking up with these 2 for 1 deals on both formats. With HD DVD truly out of the picture you can kiss that goodbye. The way I see it, what really matters with Blu-ray and HD DVD is picture quality and sound. Both can produce the same results so I don't see why many cant be content with both. Yeah it sucks you might miss out if you have only have say a PS3 or a stand alone HD DVD player but still, the competition is driving pricing down like crazy which is better for everyone regardless of if they have both formats.
The offers couldn't go on forever and you know it. Both companies allegedately lost money on giving every second movie away for free, especially some of Toshiba's offerings can only have been giving huge deficit. They did it because they hoped it would swing the format war in their direction and they've known all the time that there could be only 1 format left standing in the end. This format was going in the direction of getting so non-beneficial for the HDM market that they could've lost every opportunity to ever create a mass market for HDM as most people are, understandably, hesitant to adopt a format that could die out in a few years. There have been made several market analysis over this as we realized that one of them had to go in 2008 for HDM to ever have hope of reaching critical mass in order for cheaper hardware and software to emerge. Luckily it came as early as the 4th of january
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Old 01-06-08, 12:10 AM   #88
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You've been buying both? Sounds like a waste of money. Wait it out.
How is it a waste of money. I am pretty sure when one wins, the other discs will still play. With all the BOGO deals, now is the BEST time to own both formats because you can buy EVERYTHING.
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Old 01-06-08, 12:42 AM   #89
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If this is going to be considered the final win for BD, my question is when will there be a sub $200 BD player? (things on sale don't count). I will not be buying into BD until it can hit that price mark, hopefully with some quality.
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Old 01-06-08, 02:53 AM   #90
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Today I'm going to buy a crapload of HDDVDs. It seems that retailers are panicking and they're started to dump everything HDDVD related. This is the best time to buy a HDDVDs.

I wouldn't worry about being a "dead" format. And, besides, if Bluray succeeds I am not going to purchase everything I've in HDVDD again. You know, those BD-R disks are meant for a reason. If this isn't a fair use...

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If this is going to be considered the final win for BD, my question is when will there be a sub $200 BD player? (things on sale don't count). I will not be buying into BD until it can hit that price mark, hopefully with some quality.
Not very soon. Consumers have to pay the "incentives" that certain publishers took to switch sides
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We'll find out everything this Tuesday, hopefully. Who knows. The MS surprise might be they'll put blu-ray drives into the 360.
A smarter move for MS would be adding 1080p downloads to buy off Live Marketplace and an "ultimate" 360 with 320gb HD + wifi to go along with it.
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I don't think the format will be completely dead as was suggested, I expect they will continue to release older back catalogue titles for people's collections and dual format players will be available, so it's not the end of the world.

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The ironic thing in all this mess is that the format wars could end up being very costly for Sony. If people will start buying PS3's to use as a "cheap" BR player, Sony will never recoup their losses. BR royalties are a fraction of the royalties that Sony gets for the games.

Something similar is happening with the PSP. A lot of people buy it as a cheap media player witht the result that videogames sales are incredily low compared to the number of units sold.
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Some BR players are already cheaper than PS3s so I don't see why anyone would buy a PS3 just to play BR films.
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New Line has confirmed that it too plans to shift to Blu-ray exclusivity. Wow, other bad news for HD-DVD.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...(UPDATED)/1328

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/n...blu-footsteps/
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New Line has confirmed that it too plans to shift to Blu-ray exclusivity. Wow, other bad news for HD-DVD.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...(UPDATED)/1328

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/05/n...blu-footsteps/
That's still hear say, but they will be plugging discs in both formats.

Whoever releases the first cost effective dual format standalone player are set to prosper here, even if HD-DVD bites the bullet people will still be able to enjoy their collection aswell as buying into the Blu-Ray boom.
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