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Old 04-23-03, 11:41 PM   #13
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I have bad news (I suspect) for those of you who purchased from GameVE.com--I got mine today and it's the "reference" Gainward. Standard Dustbuster cooler.

At first I wondered if GameVE.com had simply put a sticker on a PNY product or something. But now I'm pretty certain it *is* a Gainward product--it has an internal identifier (uncoverable using the latest version of Sisoft Sandra) which identifies it as a "CardExpert Technology GeForce FX 5800 Ultra [NV30.2]." Gainward's earlier GeForce cards were called "CardExpert."

Still, it's clearly not the product GameVE.com advertised. I'm tempted to ream GameVE.com on www.reseller.com but keep the card and put a Zalman ZM80C1-HP cooler on it when it comes out.
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Old 04-23-03, 11:42 PM   #14
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Yea they are loud but the Gameve Gainward comes with the standard nvidia fx flow not the one pictured. Here is the fan that comes with the Geforce FX 5800 Ultra reference ys-tech BD1250159B-21 46.5db(yeah what was it a 90 year old deaf guy?)

Panaflo FAL3F12LL
http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/.../pdf/fal3f.pdf
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Old 04-23-03, 11:52 PM   #15
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mileswb, did you get an invoice/packing slip with your card? Does it read "Gainward GeForce FX Power Pack"?

This is clearly a case of bait and switch if it's not, especially if you didn't get the IEEE1394 card, sound card, DVI-VGA and other accessories. Those finks better not have double-crossed me on this one or else holy hell is going to break loose.

mileswb, PM me your order information, including date of order and order number. Also, please take and post additional photos so we can have some hard evidence. Thanks.
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Old 04-24-03, 12:02 AM   #16
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mine are the same as mileswb's. until now I was unaware that Gainward was making ANY with the reference fan. so this will cool the geforce fx enough? ZM80C1-HP
Zalman products always work good.
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Old 04-24-03, 12:03 AM   #17
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The packing receipt doesn't identify it as a "Power Pack" Gainward, but that's precisely what GameVE.com advertised. Interesting that the page on their website doesn't even *exist* anymore.

The receipt identifies it as a "Gainward GF FX5800 128MB Retail." Even that information isn't correct, because it was clearly an OEM product. As the attached photo indicates, it came in a simple styrofoam container with other stuff in a plastic bag (no sound card, no IEEE1394, but there was the DVI-VGA, a power supply "Y" connector (woo), and an S-Video to RCA adapter).
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Old 04-24-03, 12:08 AM   #18
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Gah! I haven't figured out how to post more than one pic in a reply yet, sorry... here's a pic of the styrofoam container before I opened it; it's still resting in the cardboard shipping box.

(Rumor has it that the ZM80C1-HP will cool it sufficiently, Badash; the heatpipe plus the attached (very quiet) fan is supposed to do the trick, although it probably will run hotter and therefore won't have much overclock potential.)
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Old 04-24-03, 12:15 AM   #19
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Same package I got from them, came with 4x4EVO game lol.
Anyways bad news from gameve, but good news from Zalman. If it's coming out real soon I will wait to modify mine. I just don't want to deal with returning it. They were deceptive with the "Retail power pack" but they didn't know about the reference fan because their ignorant. But hey, we got the gainward sticker!
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HM

This doesn't bode well.

I was thinking about picking a gainward up just to test and then sell on ebay.

Guess not. ;(

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Old 04-24-03, 12:25 AM   #21
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I called XTREMEGEAR and they said that they are selling 'Retail Boxed' versions. Trusting that this is the truth is another story.
I'd stay away from xtremegear. Had two bad dealings with them. One was with a 4200 for my friend. They didn't reply to any emails for 2 weeks...so I called them and said they no longer have it in stock. They don't even tell you or email you if they run out. Got my refund after the hassle.

They tend to boast a lot of products but never actually have it.
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Old 04-24-03, 12:29 AM   #22
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I'll say one thing though, the Gainwards fan seems to function flawlessly so far and the PNY one I had was weird. They may have different bios's, also the newset drivers that were out when I had the PNY were 43.03 I think, and I'm using 43.51 on the gainward so that could make a difference. Personally I like the cards a lot besides the noise. Once it's modded it will be very nice.
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Thanks for the pics, miles. I've saved the HTML of my order status from their web site and I've also taken a screen shot of the same page.

The way I see it, if I get what you did, GameVE has 2 options:

1) Issue me an RMA and refund every last cent I paid for this card

2) Refuse to RMA the card (or RMA with a restock fee) then I call the BBB, my credit card company and my attorney to gather a case of bait and switch. Clearly, this is what has taken place here.

They can do this the easy way or the hard way and that's exactly how I'm going to bring it up to them.
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Old 04-24-03, 10:06 AM   #24
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Strange really - Gainward have their own cooling system and now they dont...

If you ordered a card as OEM is it possible that gainwards OEM cards are the reference cards to save 'cost' on their part? If you find a 'true' retail product it should look how its pictured - i know ive seen reviews of such so they must exist lol.

Here is a pic of mine btw which as you can see is the same as all yours apart from the sticker.



Does it really matter though? Unless of course you paid extra for it.
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