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Old 01-20-08, 06:45 AM   #1
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Default ThermalTake is a piece of ****!

Remember about 5-6 months back when I came in and bragged about my new several 1000$ rig and the temps I got with OC? And that you guys said that TT is POS and those temperatures were unrealistic? Well you were right. The pump just stopped working and I guess it's only because my motherboard have such good safety measures buildin that my CPU didn't get fried (the waterblock was VERY hot to touch after the PC shut down by itself). My friend and I build the exact same computer with same specifications and same case, and though his is still working he says that the pump is emitting weird sounds. The TT Aquabay M5 which was supposed to show the water temperature never worked for either of us either!! TT - cheapass junk unworhty for the rest of my hardware

I'm using the TT Kandalf LCS silver case and I'm seriously considering not only to change the watercooling system but also the case to a much more compact one, not this mammoth TT piece of crap. I just saw that there actually is another thread going atm with watercooling recommendations, so I guess we could keep that talk there despite the fact that I don't really see anything but chit chat in there

So I'm now looking for a new interal water cooling system, a new case preferrably the smallest possible and in any case I'll let this thread serve as a warning against ever buying ThermalTake watercooling products. I know that you've said this all along but I bought my rig before I heard anything negative about TT. You were right. TT sucks.


BTW if any of you know of a good forum with guys knowledgable about watercooling and such please direct me, I REALLY want some reliable quality this time
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Old 01-20-08, 06:47 AM   #2
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Sad to hear that, atleast the CPU survived.

For anyone going watercooling be it beginner or advanced, i would always recommened a custom build kit where you just choose all parts yourself.
Alot of people can help you here with that
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Old 01-20-08, 07:00 AM   #3
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Sad to hear that, atleast the CPU survived.

For anyone going watercooling be it beginner or advanced, i would always recommened a custom build kit where you just choose all parts yourself.
Alot of people can help you here with that
I'm totally 100% up to that! Screw the time and diffilculty I save when I buy something build-in, I simply don't trust it anymore (not unless I see a cavalcade of super reviews at least), so I'm all up for the custom build. I just have one condition: It needs to be quality! 1. priority: reliabilty, 2. priority: performance. I don't care much for the price as long as it's within reasonable limits (not costing as much as a car or something). GOD I'm so annoyed but at the same time motivated right now.. I'm taking up all recommendations for cases, watercooling systems and forums right now!
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Old 01-20-08, 07:15 AM   #4
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I'm happy with the Kandalf , though i'm not using watercooling.
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Old 01-20-08, 07:33 AM   #5
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For CPU block i'd recommend D-TEK FuZion w/ Water Accelerator Nozzle Kit
Radiator: Thermochill PA120.3
Pump: Swiftech MCP655
For GPU blocks you can get DangerDen ones or swiftech.

An example for starters
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Old 01-20-08, 07:53 AM   #6
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For CPU block i'd recommend D-TEK FuZion w/ Water Accelerator Nozzle Kit
Radiator: Thermochill PA120.3
Pump: Swiftech MCP655
For GPU blocks you can get DangerDen ones or swiftech.

An example for starters
Ok

Two questions: Can that fit into the case making it internal? As much as I want quality, I'd really like it to be internal so the case is optimally mobile.
And what about tubing?
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Old 01-20-08, 08:26 AM   #7
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It should fit, that case is fairly big. Only trouble might be with the Thermochill radiator, but if you check the dimensions on their website should be fine.

Im not very knowledgable with tubings so somebody else will help you there
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Old 01-20-08, 08:35 AM   #8
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Go with Tygon 1/2 For the pump custom heads help koolance and petra make some great ones for the 655
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Old 01-20-08, 09:46 AM   #9
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Default Re: ThermalTake is a piece of ****!

I'm currently reading a lot of good reviews on XSPC X20 Water Cooling Kit right now and getting warm on this product. Does anybody have an opinion on this?

Anyway I'm still kind of considering aircooling.. My major needs are reliable cooling, silent cooling and enough performance to just OC my Q6600 to 3.0 ghz, around there would be fine. I'm still undecided on whether I want to change the Kandalf LCS Silver case I'm using right now to something more compact.
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http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...2&postcount=25

http://www.Xtremesystems.org/forums is the place to discuss water cooling gear. Don't even mention TT to them though haha!

Mythy - tygon is overpriced, Masterkleer FTW. Clearflex = cheap but stains quick!

If you got money the Silverstone TJ07 is a great water cooling case, no mods needed with the bottom compartment. Dual even triple can fit there. The Lian Li v2000 ( shown in my thread above) is nice too, you dont really have to mod anything either, although I did for the rad.
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Old 01-20-08, 10:05 AM   #11
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Ok I'm coming to my senses now.. I will not consider a pre-made cooling kit at all actually. Either I'm gonna do it the right way or I'm going back to aircooling - no in-between solutions for me either. I'll read up some more and get back to you as I go
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Old 01-20-08, 11:41 AM   #12
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Here the picture of how it looked back when I bought it and how it looks currently:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...page=2&post#20

It looked and still looks awesome though with a broken pump there's not much to do. When I look back on those pictures I can hardly make myself change the case after all

I'm really still in doubt about what I do next. Either I want to go the most expensive and best aircool solution in a smaller case (though not too small or the CPU fan won't fit I guess) or I could go with an full-blown expensive water cooling system. Though choice really :/
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