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Old 01-23-08, 07:52 AM   #1
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Default Which Sennheiser headphones for PC?

My HD595 died in a bizzare accident which I cover in details here

I was VERY impressed with the sound of these babies but having to buy a set of news ones new I thought perhaps kicking it up a notch. My choice basically stands between the Sennheiser HD595, HD600 and HD650. The price difference between the three is pretty much the same, 1200 DKK, 1575 DKK, 2325 DKK (230$, 325$, 450$). I want them to last 10 years so I might as well buy the ones who give me the best sound. However I currently don't have any plans of using them for anything else than my PC (which is equiped with a Creative X-fi). What do you think?
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Old 01-23-08, 11:18 AM   #2
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If you are looking for a step up in sound quality and reliability, do consider Beyerdynamic 880 or 990. Both models are available in standard (consumer) and Pro (studio) versions, with the Pro being practically the same sonically while having an even more rugged design.

In terms of sound, they may be a little more revealing and neutral than SH (coming from a company manufacturing professional studio gear), so it's of course a matter of preference. In terms of reliability, they are built like a tank and I have heard stories from recording guys who basically carry them between home, studio and live gigs in a backpack every day for years with no issues.

I've used the DT 880 for 5 years now and really wouldn't replace them with anything else.

EDIT: BTW, have you considered going for an X-Fi Elite Pro? While I don't use the external bay, the upgraded DACs and op-amps really make a hell of a difference is SQ compared to the other X-Fi versions.
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Old 01-23-08, 11:41 AM   #3
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My HD595 died in a bizzare accident which I cover in details here

I was VERY impressed with the sound of these babies but having to buy a set of news ones new I thought perhaps kicking it up a notch. My choice basically stands between the Sennheiser HD595, HD600 and HD650. The price difference between the three is pretty much the same, 1200 DKK, 1575 DKK, 2325 DKK (230$, 325$, 450$). I want them to last 10 years so I might as well buy the ones who give me the best sound. However I currently don't have any plans of using them for anything else than my PC (which is equiped with a Creative X-fi). What do you think?
I've had my HD595s for almost 7 months now and they are simply the best all around headphones i've ever used. I've been through BD dt660, AKG k240+k270 and one other open headphone..But the HD595 beats them all. I think its incredibly open and gives a true representation of the source. I've used my friend's hd650, and it had a bit more bass and openness. But that may be due to his amp which the high impedance hd650 requires. So does the hd600. But the hd595 can hook up straight to your soundcard, though it will sound much better if it were connected to a quality amp.

If I were to buy another headphone again, it would be the hd595. Its great for most types of music, and is simply the best for movies and gaming. As for reliability, ive dropped the thing so many times with the cord tangled up yet it still looks brand new and works great.
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Old 01-23-08, 12:51 PM   #4
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And i will NEVER buy another brand then Sennheizer again! Top quality and sound.
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Old 01-23-08, 03:14 PM   #6
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Hmm it seems somehow tempting to buy an Xi-Fi Elite Pro as I'm sure it can count as an amplifier which I hear is needed to really unleash the potential of the HD600/HD650 thus filling in the gap between them and the HD595. The Elite Pro is NOT cheap however.. I really don't hope Creative is coming out with a new line of audiocard products in the near future that would really suck if I shell out 2350 DKK or 460$ for the Elite Pro.

So IF i did that would HD600 or HD650 be the best choice? But as I said price is not really a fator as I don't really care that much if I give 325$ or 450$ for a pair of headphones that will last me 10 years. The problem is that I'm reading that some audiofiles actually prefer the HD600 despite it being an older model, supposedly slightly technically inferior and cheaper. It's confusing! If just higher product number and price = higher quality I'd have a much easier time deciding!
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Old 01-23-08, 05:40 PM   #7
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Come to think of it, I actually don't think all the X-Fi Elite Pro software will play very well with Windows Vista?

Dunno, perhaps I should wait it out for Creative next offers even though that may be years away..
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Old 01-23-08, 06:02 PM   #8
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meh, so you aren't using a headphone amp?
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Old 01-23-08, 06:13 PM   #9
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meh, so you aren't using a headphone amp?
Not other than my PC and it's X-fi Gamer Xtreme in itself, no? I don't even know if this is considered an amplifier. But I'm not a total hifi audiofile geek, I just want the best sound on my PC as possible for games, movies and music without having to buy a physically big, heavy bulky and not least expensive stand alone amplifier that would serve no other purpose than to improve my PC headphone experience somehow if you can follow

I want some really highend headphones and is willing to dish out whatever can be harnessed by my PC up to the HD650, but I'm not made of money and in the end I need an HDTV more than an Amplifier in the end having both X360, PS3 and Blurays but no HDTV.
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if you do go with the HD600/650, you definitely need a HP amp to get the most out of them. You can try finding the HD580 if you dont want to send the extra $$ on the HD600 as the 600 just has a different grill and carbon fiber housing with some hand matched drivers. The 650 is indeed a step up from both but either way, you should enjoy the sound. Amps aren't really that large, if you want something cheap and effective try looking up a PIMETA at head-fi.org , alot of ppl make them and can be had for $100-150. There are a ton of other amps out there so its really up to you and your budget.
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If you want to use the full potential any pair of audiophile headphones, you do need an amplifier. Even with the X-Fi Elite Pro, the superior DACs and op-amps are only installed on the card itself, and not on the external module. So, you need a direct connection to the card, which in turn does not have enough juice to drive a large set of headphones properly.

There are quite a few interesting products to consider. I can recommend Pro-Ject Head Box SE (http://www.project-audio.com/main.ph...ories&lang=en), affordable but excellent quality (see http://www.tekni-fi.dk/php/index1.php, the distributor for Denmark).
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I have just wrote something that seems like an essey in danish on the differences between HD600 and HD650 - I tried them out today for five hours in my local hifi store today. I don't think it's worth going through the effort to translate as I can imagine not enough are interested on this topic in here, but in short I prefer the HD600's even though I WANTED the HD650 to be best because their specs are technically a little bit better, they are more expensive etc., so I could feel that I had the best. But that wasn't the case. Among other things the HD600 sounded more clear to me in the midrange frequency sounds and had a better soundfield, scene or whatever you call it than HD650 - i.e. better for gaming I think. HD650 had a little better and more precise bass, smoothed out lower and higher tones a bit better but overall I was disappointed by the lack of clarity and it didn't touch me emotionally or give me the chills like the HD600 could. Still they are very good headphones and I don't want the differences to sound huge, I just preferred the HD600.

I'm also currently having plans of getting a real amplifier after hearing the sound in the hifi store, though I don't know which price range I'm aiming for yet. Perhaps I'll just try them on X-fi first and see how it sounds, now I have something to compare it to
Even if I decided not to go with with an amp or I change my mind, I'd still buy HD600 anytime over HD595 - they have so much more potential and you never know if you get a cheap amp from somewhere or even buy a decent one and I really think it's worth the investment considering their expected lifetime of 8-12 years (my estimate ), I'd like to see why I should give a damn about the price difference on less than 100$ from 230$ to $325. Once I try them on my X-fi without amp I can report back of anybody wants this..
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