Is Creative Done

Mr Bigman · 01-27-08, 03:41 PM

Their hasn't been a major soundcard from these guys in over a year.

The last one i remember was the XFI Fatality from September 06.

They did release one, a PCI-ex version but that ones is garbage so are these guys done with soundcards cuz they sure don't release drivers either no more.

Bokishi · 01-27-08, 03:46 PM

Yeah they are about due for a new sound card, I mean the one I'm using is from september 2005!

stncttr908 · 01-27-08, 03:53 PM

Well they have really monopolized the gaming sound card market. What is their real incentive?

dxx · 01-27-08, 03:56 PM

I'd guess so. There's more money to be made in their other lines of business, especially now that Vista's software audio rendering has made dedicated hardware redundant, and onboard digital-outputs have made SnR ratio boasting a thing of the past.

AthlonXP1800 · 01-27-08, 03:56 PM

They are working on a new high end soundcard.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...5099&Itemid=57

jolle · 01-27-08, 04:51 PM

The X-Fi packs alot of power compared to previous Audigy2 chips it seems.
Wonder if any game has been using a fair share of that power?
Quake4 used some of the EAX5 stuff with OpenAL, but other then that there hasnt been that heavy implementations afaik.
Dunno if there is any real NEED for a more powerful chip or not.

Im getting the impression that gamedevs use it less and less.
1) console ports, we get alot of that today, and they use crossplatform sound APIs from MS I guess (Xaudio or somesuch?).
2) Alot of people stick with onboard audio, which doesnt offer much in HW acceleration.

Mr Bigman · 01-27-08, 09:58 PM

Yea, pretty much with Vista and good onboard HD audio, you don't need the expensive XFI that still has cracking issues even with newer chipsets.

I think Creative hit a wall when it comes to these cards so if they want to be anygood, they need to move to better PCI-e offerings instead of the crap out now.

Tr1cK · 01-27-08, 10:20 PM

I wish they were done. They have been sucking for years.

Too bad Aureal went under.

Mr Bigman · 01-27-08, 11:18 PM

Oh, i loved aureal. They had some good cards and TurleBeach series kicked butt.

Auzetech seems good but only on Newegg.

AthlonXP1800 · 01-27-08, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tr1cK

I wish they were done. They have been sucking for years.

Too bad Aureal went under.

Ahh A3D...

but Creative acquired Aureal assets through bankruptcy court in 2000 then they later incorporated advanced A3D features into EAX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A3D

mezkal · 01-27-08, 11:58 PM

Consumer level soundcards are only a small portion of Creative's range.

The own EMU Systems who produce professional audio engineering equipment and synthesisers. They also do a very brisk trade in portable media players with their Zen range.

Creative are not dead but with any luck their consumer sound cards will be. They mistreat their consumer sound card customers with unstable drivers, forced obsolescence and a support infrastructure which ignores the customer should they have any technical issues.

Gaco · 01-28-08, 04:15 AM

I think they're taking their time because their new soundcard product will have to differentiate itself sufficiently from the X-Fi series. It simply have to be a big enough step forward so they can say even to X-Fi owners "look you MUST have this new product!"

01-27-08, 03:41 PM	#1
Mr Bigman Strongest Man On Earth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 4,943	Is Creative Done Their hasn't been a major soundcard from these guys in over a year. The last one i remember was the XFI Fatality from September 06. They did release one, a PCI-ex version but that ones is garbage so are these guys done with soundcards cuz they sure don't release drivers either no more. __________________ EVGA X58 Tri SLI Core I 7 3.7Ghz 12 gb corsair DDR3 1600 Three EVGA 285 SLI Antec 1200 Corsiar 1000 HX Power Supply 2 OCZ SSD Hard Drives 4 wd black edition raid 2 setups for 4TB _____________________________ having good looks and a good body is hard work.

01-27-08, 03:46 PM	#2
Bokishi NV THIS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hutt Space Posts: 1,289	Re: Is Creative Done Yeah they are about due for a new sound card, I mean the one I'm using is from september 2005! __________________ i5 2500K @ 4.2GHz EVGA Z68 Ripjaws X 16GB 1600MHz EVGA GTX 680 X-Fi Titanium HD Intel 40GB SSD (SRT Cache) Hitachi 1TB Boot HDD 7TB Storage HDDs Coolermaster 750w

01-27-08, 03:53 PM	#3
stncttr908 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 4,496	Re: Is Creative Done Well they have really monopolized the gaming sound card market. What is their real incentive? __________________ PC - \| Core i7-2600K @ stock \| Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 \| 4GB Patriot Sector 5 DDR3 \| Galaxy GTX 460 1GB @ stock \| Corsair Force 120GB SSD \| Seagate 1TB 7200RPM \| 320GB Seagate 7200.10 \| 2x Seagate 500GB USB 2.0 \| Lite-On 20x SATA DVD+RW \| Silverstone TJ-09 \| Corsair 620W PSU \| Logitech Z-5500s \| Sennheiser HD-570 headphones \| Samsung 2494LW \| Laptop - \| Dell Inspiron 1420 \| C2D T7300 (2.0GHz, 4MB cache) \| 2GB DDR2-667 \| 160GB 7200RPM HDD \| DVD +/- RW \| 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) \| Broadcom 802.11g \| NVIDIA 8400M GS 128MB \|

01-27-08, 03:56 PM	#4
dxx Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 490	Re: Is Creative Done I'd guess so. There's more money to be made in their other lines of business, especially now that Vista's software audio rendering has made dedicated hardware redundant, and onboard digital-outputs have made SnR ratio boasting a thing of the past.

01-27-08, 03:56 PM	#5
AthlonXP1800 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,352	Re: Is Creative Done They are working on a new high end soundcard. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...5099&Itemid=57 __________________ Intel Core i7 3770K, Corsair H80 liquid cooler with Noctua S12-1200 fan, ASUS P8Z77V with UEFI 1606, 16GB Samsung Green 30nm DDR3-RAM, Pioneer DVR-217DBK 22x DVD-RW, Corsair AX850 PSU, Western Digital 2TB SATA3 hard drive, Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, CanonScan N650U scanner, Microsoft Internet Keyboard, ASDA Wheel Mouse Optical, Sirus's 2 3D speakers, 32inch Sharp LC32LE600 LED TV, EVGA Geforce GTX 670 SC 4GB with Geforce 306.23 driver, 30Mb broadband Virgin Media VMDG480 Super Hub, Aspire Xplorer Midi Tower, Windows 8 Pro 64bit.

01-27-08, 04:51 PM	#6
jolle Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,804	Re: Is Creative Done The X-Fi packs alot of power compared to previous Audigy2 chips it seems. Wonder if any game has been using a fair share of that power? Quake4 used some of the EAX5 stuff with OpenAL, but other then that there hasnt been that heavy implementations afaik. Dunno if there is any real NEED for a more powerful chip or not. Im getting the impression that gamedevs use it less and less. 1) console ports, we get alot of that today, and they use crossplatform sound APIs from MS I guess (Xaudio or somesuch?). 2) Alot of people stick with onboard audio, which doesnt offer much in HW acceleration. __________________ Q6700, Abit X38 QuadGT, 8Gb (4x 2GB) OCZ Reaper DDR2 1066MHz, Gainward GTX 285 1Gb, X-Fi XtremeMusic

01-27-08, 09:58 PM	#7
Mr Bigman Strongest Man On Earth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 4,943	Re: Is Creative Done Yea, pretty much with Vista and good onboard HD audio, you don't need the expensive XFI that still has cracking issues even with newer chipsets. I think Creative hit a wall when it comes to these cards so if they want to be anygood, they need to move to better PCI-e offerings instead of the crap out now. __________________ EVGA X58 Tri SLI Core I 7 3.7Ghz 12 gb corsair DDR3 1600 Three EVGA 285 SLI Antec 1200 Corsiar 1000 HX Power Supply 2 OCZ SSD Hard Drives 4 wd black edition raid 2 setups for 4TB _____________________________ having good looks and a good body is hard work.

01-27-08, 10:20 PM	#8
Tr1cK not coming back Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,872	Re: Is Creative Done I wish they were done. They have been sucking for years. Too bad Aureal went under.

01-27-08, 11:18 PM	#9
Mr Bigman Strongest Man On Earth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 4,943	Re: Is Creative Done Oh, i loved aureal. They had some good cards and TurleBeach series kicked butt. Auzetech seems good but only on Newegg. __________________ EVGA X58 Tri SLI Core I 7 3.7Ghz 12 gb corsair DDR3 1600 Three EVGA 285 SLI Antec 1200 Corsiar 1000 HX Power Supply 2 OCZ SSD Hard Drives 4 wd black edition raid 2 setups for 4TB _____________________________ having good looks and a good body is hard work.

01-28-08, 04:15 AM	#12
Gaco L4D & DoW2 ftw! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,143	Re: Is Creative Done I think they're taking their time because their new soundcard product will have to differentiate itself sufficiently from the X-Fi series. It simply have to be a big enough step forward so they can say even to X-Fi owners "look you MUST have this new product!" __________________ ---MAIN GAMING RIG from MID SEPTEMBER 2007, MOBO+CASE+FANS UPGRADED APRIL 2009, GRAPHICSCARD UPGRADED MARCH 2010--- Case: Antec P182 case + 3x 120mm Scythe Slipstream SY1225SL12M @ ~900 RPM Motherboard: Asus P5Q Deluxe CPU: Intel Core2 Q6600@3.3ghz w. Noctua NH-U12P RAM: 4Gb Crucial Tracer PC-8500 Graphics: XFX Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition Harddiscs: 2xRaptorX 150gb 10.000 RPM in RAID0 Soundcard: X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound: Sennheiser HD600 Headphones + headamp Keyboard: Logitech DiNovo Edge Mouse: Razor Orochi Monitor: Samsung 2232BW (22" 1680*1050) OS: Windows 7 Professional 64bit

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