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Old 02-22-08, 12:15 AM   #25
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Default Re: Rebuild: Blackbird-002 Dedication Edition

Use the MX-2, it's better than AS5:
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/further_prod2.php?idx=140
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Old 02-22-08, 01:57 AM   #26
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Hey bro,
Yeah, bad shape over there...

Anyway,

I'm about to pull the cards and CPU block, I hope there's enough slack in the tubes so I can try and put them over the side of the case.
I'll pull the radiator if needed, but the less I have to mess with the better.

Will post the pics of the good stuff you want to see when I take a break.

Just woke up, so I'm fresh and this new board is getting installed tonight.

Question for ya. What thermal paste would you go with on this setup for the CPU?
I usually use AS5, and a dab of it in the middle of the CPU the size of a BB as in BB gun.
They may have a pad type under there which I think suc.

Also with quad cores, AS5 guide says to do this.

Thanks.. or should I say Tanks!

I would use Arctic Silver's High-Density ceramic thermal paste. It's non-conductive and has never failed me and it's even better then Arctic Silver 5 which is conductive. url: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

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Old 02-22-08, 02:04 AM   #27
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Ceramic only works better than AS5 at low heat situation, e.g, for phase change sub zero cooling. The MX-2 is the latest and best, period. It's non-conductive, non-capacitive, non-curing, non-bleeding and doesn't degrade over time like the AS5 does.
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Old 02-22-08, 02:51 AM   #28
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OK, will check them both out, thank you.

What do you think about the picture on how they apply that line down the middle of the cores?

The BB size dab dead center is what I'm leaning towards.
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Old 02-22-08, 03:02 AM   #29
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OK, will check them both out, thank you.

What do you think about the picture on how they apply that line down the middle of the cores?

The BB size dab dead center is what I'm leaning towards.
For AS5, I always do the line method, either horizontal for quad core or vertical line for dual core. For MX-2, BB size dab in the center is the correct way. I wouldn't try to spread the paste myself.
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Old 02-22-08, 03:22 AM   #30
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For AS5, I always do the line method, either horizontal for quad core or vertical line for dual core. For MX-2, BB size dab in the center is the correct way. I wouldn't try to spread the paste myself.
Kool, yeah I don't spread it either, no need as it gets compressed.

Thanks..
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Old 02-22-08, 06:55 PM   #31
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DT?

After I show you what was needed to replace this motherboard with that cooling system, you may want to just leave that rig as is.

You somehow got a Bird that was built by someone qualified and had access to a really good batch/stock of parts to use.

Two of my usb ports was another issue, they died.
I now know why, the usb cables had no shrink wrap and fried.
When you see that pic you will see what I'm trying to say.

Removing the video cards is another problem, I have pics of everything I did and problems I ran into.
It's a lot of uploading and then I have to write what each pic is and problems.
I just got the old mobo out about an hour ago.
If the new one is defective I can't see me doing this over again.

Just a brief update I wanted to post.
Do not flash, or change one damn thing as long as it's running so well.
I have to force myself to work on it and take breaks because I'm really pissed off that they sent me this wreck and I have to spend hours to do something that would take me 30 minutes on every other rig I've built.

Later man..
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Old 02-22-08, 10:06 PM   #32
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Old 02-23-08, 01:55 AM   #33
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I micro managed and called them every other day during the pre-build stages. I told them I wanted them to build it perfect from A to Z. I think calling them every other day to check up on the status helped me get the perfect system without any problems. Infact, they shipped it free to me! I made damn sure they knew who I was. Would I do it again, Yes....but I would wait for 2 or 3 years before I'd ever consider buying a pre-built cookie cutter again. It's always fun to build you own system and to customize you're dream machine but hp's blackbird 002 was just to damn hard for me to pass up. The next time I upgrade will be on the nForce 880i or even 890i or if Intel and Nvidia ever work something out I will go for one of those killer motherboard platforms along with an Intel Quad core or better with NVIDIA's 10-Series graphics cards for (NextGen SLI). As for now, having SLI is great with the 8800 Ultra Series and Intel Quad core QX6850!!!!!! My next major purchase will be an SLI Laptop for the road....................
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Old 02-23-08, 03:40 AM   #34
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I did just that bro, and they just really screwed everything up.

I'm done with them.
The Bird is costing me the price of the new motherboard and if they have a problem with that they can deal with my lawyer.

BTW, the backplate the water block mounts to was like super glued to the old board. Got it off, but the board was making some nice cracking sounds. LOL!

It was hosed anyway so doesn't matter in my case, but it's not something you can do with a working board and expect it to work again.

This is and has been a real bitch to work with.
You're gunna be like omg, no way I'm going through all that!

Catch ya later bro...
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Old 02-23-08, 07:25 AM   #35
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When that time comes I'll be up for the challenge. You should just return the hp blackbird and get a full refund and start all over and rebuild you're self a new computer. That's exactly what I would do.
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Old 02-23-08, 10:46 AM   #36
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Motherboard supports SLI and Crossfire ,Thats interesting.
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