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Old 02-26-08, 04:55 PM   #1
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Default 196.12 is released

64 bit Version:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...64_169.12.html

32 bit Version:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...32_169.12.html

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Old 02-26-08, 05:08 PM   #2
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There are other threads coping this already.
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Old 02-26-08, 11:19 PM   #3
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Does it work for the 2.6.25 rc kernels (I know rc kernels arn't officially supported but it doen't hurt to ask.)
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Old 02-27-08, 02:17 AM   #4
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@JackieBrown: it won't, unfortunately.
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Old 02-27-08, 03:59 AM   #5
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Hello,

i tried this driver with the 2.6.25-rc2-mm1 kernel and it works without hacking the driver. The only thing i died was reexporting init_mm but i don't know if it is necessary.
And it works great. I don't get the kernel warning, which i got with the hacked 169.09.

Oh i was wrong after a reboot a get the kernel warning.
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Old 02-27-08, 08:15 AM   #6
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I've followed the instruction at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d...32_169.12.html

But I meet an error:



Anyone could help me ???
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Old 02-27-08, 08:30 AM   #7
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You just have to read...
Install the binutils package.

Tho I'd seriously reconsider using a distro that doesn't have binutils installed by default.
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Old 02-27-08, 12:09 PM   #8
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I see the short version of the installation instructions at that URL does not mention the need to shutdown X while installing.
Does that mean that this inconvenient requirement has been dropped?
I often wondered why the work the driver installation does (replacing libraries and modules) cannot be done while X is running. After all this is Linux, not Windows. No problem to replace files that are "in use", even libraries and modules. The convenient sequence would be installation from X, then a restart of X to get the new version active.

Now that newer distributions no longer support "init 3" and shutting down X is even more difficult, as the installer been modified to allow install from a text window like shown above?
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Old 02-27-08, 12:37 PM   #9
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Every recent distribution supports stopping the running X Server. init 3 was never a good solution as there is no standard defining runlevel 3 as the one without X.

They should have told users on how to stop the X Server by using the corresponding initscript.

However: all the distributions you probably have in mind do support an installation in a running X environment. Only the nvidia installer doesn't support this, however, it was never recommended to install a driver manually when there is a prepacked version for your distribution. On some recent distribution, ubuntu as an example, installing the driver by hand will cause version conflicts and break your system as in no more X, which is hard to solve for new linux users.
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Old 02-27-08, 01:05 PM   #10
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init 3 was never a good solution as there is no standard defining runlevel 3 as the one without X.
It is called a de-facto standard
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However: all the distributions you probably have in mind do support an installation in a running X environment. Only the nvidia installer doesn't support this
I know it is possible to install prepackaged versions and this fact shows that there is no technical reason to not support installation within X.
The screenshot above shows an nvidia installer running in X, and I think there is some check in the installer to disallow this. Only I don't know if it is checked before or after the presence of ld. When before, maybe this limitation has finally been lifted? That is my question.

File semantics in Linux are such that there is no requirement to close files before replacing them (as there is in Windows). I asked before why the installer poses this limitation, but got no farther than "there was some reason I don't remember exactly" or similar. But the pre-packaged drivers show that this is not really true.
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Old 02-27-08, 01:19 PM   #11
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If you can't get out of X to install the driver, then what happens when the driver fails and you're stuck in a broken X?
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Old 02-27-08, 02:33 PM   #12
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If you can't get out of X to install the driver, then what happens when the driver fails and you're stuck in a broken X?
I always built the kernel module while being in an X session.
./NVIDIA*.run -aKN -k kernelver.
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