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Old 03-14-08, 04:16 PM   #13
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ah, and now we are down to insulting people?
Ever read your own posts?
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Old 03-14-08, 05:06 PM   #14
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There is no single insult in them.

About the drivers: I am quite happy with them,
the only really persisting problem is the one with
problems with S3 or S4.

However, in many cases this is not only nvidias
fault but the fault of crappy or windows specific
ACPI implementation.

My current Quadro (nvs 140m) works great,
display brightness controll was fixed after
some posts here, I always had feedback
(even though I needed to post twice some times)
and the ut2004 bug (texture compression)
should be solved soon.

Of course I understand the frustration of users
with non-working hardware, but threads like this one
or insulting users doesn't help anyone.

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Old 03-14-08, 06:22 PM   #15
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I've just checked this so called "bad 2D support" and I do agree that 2D support is a joke for Linux NVIDIA users. My integrated Intel card works better (much faster) with Firefox/browsing documents than my GF8. It's lame.
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Old 03-14-08, 06:52 PM   #16
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I've just checked this so called "bad 2D support" and I do agree that 2D support is a joke for Linux NVIDIA users. My integrated Intel card works better (much faster) with Firefox/browsing documents than my GF8. It's lame.
Hmm, strange... I don't have any _laggy_ problems with the 2D-Performance of my two GF8 (8800 GTS, 8600M GT) at all...
Ok, I've to admit that these chips aren't cheap.
but maybe you can try this _old_ trick here for some extra 2D FPS!!
[aka... replace X.org's original libwfb.so with libnvidia-wfb.so and restart X]

If you have done everything right, something like this
Code:
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
        compiled for 7.1.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
should pop up in Xorg's log file.
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Old 03-14-08, 07:43 PM   #17
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Hmm, strange... I don't have any _laggy_ problems with the 2D-Performance of my two GF8 (8800 GTS, 8600M GT) at all...
Ok, I've to admit that these chips aren't cheap.
Well, as I said before, I own a 9600GT, not exactly the oldest or cheapest of cards, and still experience lags and choppy performance in 2D. I've played a bit with the newly introduced AA acceleration and found that initial pixel placement and glyphs should be both set to 1 in order to get maximum performance out of the Gnome/nVidia combo, yet the "maximum" leaves much to be desired... I would really like to call upon nVidia's people to take these things into consideration and put serious effort into providing the users of their hardware with decent performance, both in 2D and 3D and, dare I mention, PureVideo support... Whereas, all features laid out here are advertised on the box of every nVidia's card I've bought in past couple of years...
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Old 03-14-08, 08:17 PM   #18
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hmm I have a 9600gt too and haven't noticed any lag either, 2d performance seems to be top notch too...

you are using the 171.06 driver right? There were some problems with the 169.12 and 171.05 drivers but those didn't even support the 9600 officially...

One thing I found is that apparently emerald is causing some laggyness in firefox, but then emerald has been sort of buggy for me for a long time and since I've switched to gtk-window-decorator I haven't had any problems anymore.

So where exactly are you seeing lag or slowness? What desktop environment are you using and what distro are you running? It might also be a X config problem - I'm using an nvidia generated xorg.conf here (generated by nvidia-settings, merge switched off).
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Old 03-14-08, 10:26 PM   #19
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I would say that 3d performance remains top notch but 2d performance especially on G80 gpus (and above) is the worst.
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Old 03-15-08, 03:59 AM   #20
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tried this method and 2d performance dropped a little bit

talking about the laggy thing , please use firefox to visit this website(flash plugin enabled):

www.sina.com.cn

while in loading page, use ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom in/out the text quickly.

or just use page up/down to scrool the page.

same thing happen when using opera/konquer

in windows,there is no problem doing this.

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Hmm, strange... I don't have any _laggy_ problems with the 2D-Performance of my two GF8 (8800 GTS, 8600M GT) at all...
Ok, I've to admit that these chips aren't cheap.
but maybe you can try this _old_ trick here for some extra 2D FPS!!
[aka... replace X.org's original libwfb.so with libnvidia-wfb.so and restart X]

If you have done everything right, something like this
Code:
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
        compiled for 7.1.99.2, module version = 1.0.0
should pop up in Xorg's log file.
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Old 03-15-08, 04:11 AM   #21
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tried this method and 2d performance dropped a little bit

talking about the laggy thing , please use firefox to visit this website(flash plugin enabled):

www.sina.com.cn

while in loading page, use ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom in/out the text quickly.

or just use page up/down to scrool the page.

same thing happen when using opera/konquer

in windows,there is no problem doing this.
if you would have looked at ps aux/htop you would have seen that this is simply the flash plugins fault. It sucks in linux. Nothing new about that.
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Old 03-15-08, 04:50 AM   #22
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if you would have looked at ps aux/htop you would have seen that this is simply the flash plugins fault. It sucks in linux. Nothing new about that.
or flash-linux's fault?
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Old 03-15-08, 04:57 AM   #23
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or flash-linux's fault?
isn't that what I said?

the flash plugin for linux sucks. That is hardly news and doesn't prove anything.
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that is certainly a symptom that warrants a closer investigation.
Then how does one explain the differences manifestations trouble when replacing BIOS versions?
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