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Keep your E6600, mobo, eliminator, and later sell the E6600 for the Q9450. 11 31.43%
Keep current mobo, sell E6600+Eliminator and get a Q6600 G0 and Ultra120. 9 25.71%
Sell the mobo, E6600, and Eliminator and go AMD all the way. 1 2.86%
Sell what I have, go with AMD's 790FX + cheap dual core till new Phenoms come out. 3 8.57%
New CC? Screw it all and buy something that'll make jAkUp cry from envy. 8 22.86%
Other. Please explain why you chose this in your post. 3 8.57%
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Old 03-24-08, 10:37 PM   #1
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Well, the rig in my sig has been sold. I'm in the process of removing all of my data and such from it, and then re-installing Windows. So for a brief period I'm gonna' be without a gaming rig. I am investigating my options in regards to credit cards, as I'm now 21 years old and have ZERO credit. Wanting to purchase a truck, I'll be needing to take out a loan and that requires having either a co-signer... or a good line of credit. Which currently, I have neither. Getting the good credit score would be the easiest option for me.

My plan? Once I settle on a credit card to go with, my first purchase on it will be a new computer. But I'm having a hard time deciding what I want to buy. So, I'm hoping to have the infanitely wise folk here offer their finest reckoning.

Currently, this is what I own for my new rig:

-Intel Core2 Duo E6600
-Intel "BadAxe" mobo
-CoolIt Eliminator

Yup, that's it. But... I'm really wanting a quad core rig. Bottom line I want a rig that will be excellent for gaming, and super fast for just general usage. When it comes to regular usage the rig in my sig was plenty fast enough. But I'm kinda' flustered with SLi right now as it's scaling seems sketchy at best. For a brief period of time I had it working properly and was playing Crysis (DX10) at 1680x1050, all in-game options at "High", no AA or AF or any of that jazz. FPS never dipped below 25fps. That was perfectly playable for me. I got about 75% through the game and suddenly FPS just tanked. Tried starting the game from scratch... no go. Reinstalled the game and tried it without any patches, with the first patch, with the second patch- no go. Tried different drivers, used Driver Cleaner. Nothing. Cannot get SLi to function properly, atleast with Crysis. So, this has naturally left a bad taste in my mouth.

I've opted to keep my E6600 and Intel BadAxe mobo and try some QuadCrossFire lovin'... I'm pretty sure that could play Crysis at 1680x1050, all in-game options at "High" with not other AA or AF related jazz and have atleast 25fps. I could also sell my E6600 and Eliminator when the Q9450s come out and go with high-end air cooling like the Ultra120 extreme.

But I also know that if I ever want to use AA and AF and my native res then nVidia and SLi is where it's at.

So all in all I'm wanting some opinions from ya'll. What do you think of AMD's chipsets? For what I could sell the E6600, Eliminator, and Intel BadAxe mobo for I could purchase a Phenom9500 plus a new mobo with AMD's 790FX chipset. That'll do QuadCrossFire just fine and I'd have quad-core goodness.

The E6600 goes for $230 on Newegg. I'd imagine I can get *at most* $160 for it.

The Intel "BadAxe" mobo currently goes for $219 on newegg. I'd imagine I could get $130 for it *at most*.

The CoolIT Eliminator Goes for $189 on newegg. I'd probably get say $90 for it *atmost*.

All together, that's $380 *at most* that'd I'd get for the E6600, mobo, and Eliminator. With that much cash, I can then get this mobo, this proc, and then have about $40 left over to put towards some RAM. I could then use my new CC to purchase dual 3870x2s, the hard drive, case, PSU, optical drives, and case fans.

Or would you recommend keeping my current board, going with QuadCrossFire, and selling the E6600 later and the eliminator and going with the Q9450? How are AMD's chipsets compared to Intel's? Also, is CrossFire a little more reliable then SLi? Comparable? Less?

I'm mostly seeking you're own personal opinions. I'm going to take that, and mix it with what I've been reading in the reviews, to help form my own opinion and make my decision.

Thanks in advance for you suggestions.
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Old 03-24-08, 10:46 PM   #2
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Sell the coolIT but keep the rest... and wait for the GX2's to drop in price or just hold out till the next big thing.

You probably won't get those prices... and you have to pay for shipping and things. It'll end up being more trouble to swap stuff out.

Do you already have DDr2 RAM?
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Old 03-24-08, 10:55 PM   #3
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Sell the coolIT but keep the rest... and wait for the GX2's to drop in price or just hold out till the next big thing.

You probably won't get those prices... and you have to pay for shipping and things. It'll end up being more trouble to swap stuff out.

Do you already have DDr2 RAM?
No. All I have is what was listed- the Intel BadAxe mobo, E6600, and the Eliminator.

I'm really not pleased with nVidia and SLi. It seems more of a headache anytime it is *needed*... such as Crysis. My hope is that CrossFire is less of a headache *when needed*... if you know what I mean.
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Old 03-25-08, 12:02 AM   #4
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No. All I have is what was listed- the Intel BadAxe mobo, E6600, and the Eliminator.

I'm really not pleased with nVidia and SLi. It seems more of a headache anytime it is *needed*... such as Crysis. My hope is that CrossFire is less of a headache *when needed*... if you know what I mean.
Well all you need is 4GB of Ram for $100, and a cheapo GPU to tide you over till the next big thing... I recommend a 88GT or 96GT or 88GTS if you are gaming at anything under 1920x1200.

My GT plays everything fine with low AA at 1920x1200. Except Crysis, no-AA 30FPS, but I'm sick of that game anyway.

It's up to you if you really want to crossfire, but it just seems like all that switcheroo stuff will just add up... time and shipping costs FTL.
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Old 03-25-08, 12:55 AM   #5
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Well all you need is 4GB of Ram for $100, and a cheapo GPU to tide you over till the next big thing... I recommend a 88GT or 96GT or 88GTS if you are gaming at anything under 1920x1200.

My GT plays everything fine with low AA at 1920x1200. Except Crysis, no-AA 30FPS, but I'm sick of that game anyway.

It's up to you if you really want to crossfire, but it just seems like all that switcheroo stuff will just add up... time and shipping costs FTL.


The Intel BadAxe mobo fully supports quad CrossFire:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex...aspx?p=2#intel

Technically, all I need right now is the RAM. I have a PSU I can use, and a 7900GT w/512MB of framebuffer. It's only the RAM holding me back. I have a case I can use, hard drive, optical drives, fans, etc. But really, I don't want to get it assembled temporarily, place the order for the parts, and re-assemble it. Lotta' hassle if you ask me.

Rather just build it once and call it good.

I have an old ASUS A7V333 mobo and AXP 2800 that I was gonna' use with my 2GB G.Skill DDR500 RAM and a old GeForce2 MX400. Was hoping to run Kubuntu 7.10 on it till I got my new gaming rig up and running- but I'm having nothing but issues with it. The live CD wont even load and it's a fresh burn! Loaded once to the desktop, froze, and now it wont let me get to the desktop at all.

So I might be going a week or so without a computer.
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Old 03-25-08, 01:14 AM   #6
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The Intel BadAxe mobo fully supports quad CrossFire:

http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex...aspx?p=2#intel

Technically, all I need right now is the RAM. I have a PSU I can use, and a 7900GT w/512MB of framebuffer. It's only the RAM holding me back. I have a case I can use, hard drive, optical drives, fans, etc. But really, I don't want to get it assembled temporarily, place the order for the parts, and re-assemble it. Lotta' hassle if you ask me.

Rather just build it once and call it good.

I have an old ASUS A7V333 mobo and AXP 2800 that I was gonna' use with my 2GB G.Skill DDR500 RAM and a old GeForce2 MX400. Was hoping to run Kubuntu 7.10 on it till I got my new gaming rig up and running- but I'm having nothing but issues with it. The live CD wont even load and it's a fresh burn! Loaded once to the desktop, froze, and now it wont let me get to the desktop at all.

So I might be going a week or so without a computer.
Maybe you meant to post this on ATInews.net.

Get the crossfire set up.

See if I care.

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Old 03-25-08, 01:16 AM   #7
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Maybe you meant to post this on ATInews.net.

Get the crossfire set up.

See if I care.

lol

Yeah, it seems the route with the least hassle would be keep what I have, go quad CrossFire. Then when the Q9450s are out (I'm determined to get Quad core), sell the E6600 and Eliminator and purchase the Q9450 and the best air cooler available at that time.

Gonna' call my buddy whom is a manager at my bank. I'm gonna' see what the interest is if I get a CC through my bank. If it's not too bad, I may try to swing by there before work to get a new debit card, and apply for the credit card.
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Old 03-25-08, 01:18 AM   #8
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lol

Yeah, it seems the route with the least hassle would be keep what I have, go quad CrossFire. Then when the Q9450s are out (I'm determined to get Quad core), sell the E6600 and Eliminator and purchase the Q9450 and the best air cooler available at that time.

Gonna' call my buddy whom is a manager at my bank. I'm gonna' see what the interest is if I get a CC through my bank. If it's not too bad, I may try to swing by there before work to get a new debit card, and apply for the credit card.
You are a man of action! I would get two 3870x2's if I had a CC and your strange thirst for ATI cards...
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You are a man of action! I would get two 3870x2's if I had a CC and your strange thirst for ATI cards...
lol- strange thirst for ATi cards? No single card (I'm excluding the GX2s and X2s) can run Crysis at the settings I want. The 9800GX2 is using SLi which I'm tired of fussing with, while the 3870x2s are using CrossFire, which I've been hearing more and more good things about. That isn't to say the "grass looks greener on the other side of the fence"... just that I'm tired of SLi and want something different without sacrificing performance.

If a rig running an E6600 at 3.4 to 3.6Ghz, 8GB DDR800, 1TB HDD space, and dual 3870x2s cannot keep up with the rig in my sig in Crysis... I'll be very close to ditching PCs for gaming altogether. That's gonna' be a lot of rig that I'm building. It should play Crysis just fine (DX9) with no AA and AF.
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lol- strange thirst for ATi cards? No single card (I'm excluding the GX2s and X2s) can run Crysis at the settings I want. The 9800GX2 is using SLi which I'm tired of fussing with, while the 3870x2s are using CrossFire, which I've been hearing more and more good things about. That isn't to say the "grass looks greener on the other side of the fence"... just that I'm tired of SLi and want something different without sacrificing performance.

If a rig running an E6600 at 3.4 to 3.6Ghz, 8GB DDR800, 1TB HDD space, and dual 3870x2s cannot keep up with the rig in my sig in Crysis... I'll be very close to ditching PCs for gaming altogether. That's gonna' be a lot of rig that I'm building. It should play Crysis just fine (DX9) with no AA and AF.
Maybe you should just get a console, I've heard they're better.
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Maybe you should just get a console, I've heard they're better.
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I voted for #4 as it is the best solution. However the budget mind not work so well so #2 would be my second choice.
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