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Old 04-15-08, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Moving from single to dual core - Advice?

Advice other than, "You should have gotten an Intel". I already know that. The price made it impossible. This is a $400 mainboard/CPU/RAM/Graphics Card/hard drive upgrade to get me from single core > dual core, AGP > PCI-E, IDE > SATA, and 1 Gig DDR1 > 2 Gig DDR2.

I am upgrading my rig from a single core Athlon 64 4000 to an Athlon 64 X2 5400 dual core as soon as friggin' FedEx arives, who has been sitting on my delivery for 2 days to make sure I didn't get it ANY faster than the absolute last moment of the due time...bastages.

Is there anything I should know about these dual cores when installing Windows XP after? I have gotten AMD's Dual Core Optimizer and the CPU driver. Is that all it takes? Any weird, new BIOS settings or anything?

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Old 04-15-08, 02:39 PM   #2
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Advice other than, "You should have gotten an Intel". I already know that. The price made it impossible.
Thanks.
I doubt it unless you were given the X2 for free
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Old 04-15-08, 02:55 PM   #3
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103242
Athlon 64 X2 5400. Was $77 last week when I was shopping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115016
Comparable Intel CPU at more than double that price. For this price I could buy 2 of the CPU's I bought and my new hard drive to put it in perspective.

To get this would have forced me to remain with my 80 gig IDE drive, or reduce my video card options too much.
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Old 04-15-08, 04:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: Moving from single to dual core - Advice?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103242
Athlon 64 X2 5400. Was $77 last week when I was shopping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115016
Comparable Intel CPU at more than double that price. For this price I could buy 2 of the CPU's I bought and my new hard drive to put it in perspective.

To get this would have forced me to remain with my 80 gig IDE drive, or reduce my video card options too much.
You have to remember that the intel c2d are far superior to that of the amd's counterpart.
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Old 04-15-08, 04:04 PM   #5
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116036

Then you would have something to upgrade from.
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Anyway ,Enough of that ,Heres the bios options for your mobo-

CPU Voltage: (+0.012, 0.025, 0.037, 0.050, .....)v
Memory Voltage: (1.95, 2.05, 2.15, 2.25, 2.35, 2.55, 2.65)v
HT Voltage Regulator: 1.2v, 1.25v, 1.3v, 1.35v
NB/SB Voltage Regulator: Same as above

CPU Clock: 200Mhz-600Mhz (max)

--- CPU FEATURES ---

Virtualization: Enabled, Disabled
AMD K8 Cool&Quiet Control: Enabled, Disabled
NPT Fid Control: (x5 - 1000mhz, x6 - 1200mhz, ... , x10 - 2000mhz, x11 - 2200mhz)
NPT Vid Control: Auto, 1.4v, 1.375v, 1.350v, ..., 0.5500v

--- DRAM Config. ---

Memory Clock Value: Auto, DDR 400, DDR 533, DDR 667, DDR 800, DDR 1066
MCT Memory Timing: *you can change all the timings

--- HT Link Control ---
HT Link Width: Auto, 8 bit, 16 bit
HT link frequency: Auto, 200mhz, 400mhz, 600mhz, 800mhz, 1ghz
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Nothing about dual/single in there I don't think.
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Old 04-15-08, 05:04 PM   #6
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My 2 cents - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=81429

I just swapped my brothers A643500 out for an Opty 175, he loves it. You'll see a nice difference. Enjoy!
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I didn't have to do anything when I upgraded from an AMD 64 3200 to a 64x2 3600. As long as your motherboard supports dual core processors there shouldn't be any problems, it should be a plug and play affair. When I swapped, it was on XP, and Windows XP recognized it right away (using CPU-Z); Vista recognized it as well after installation so no drivers required for either. From my experience, the optimizer doesn't really do anything, but I don't do anything CPU intensive. Hope this helps.
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Hey bu1basaur, how does your rig play games with that 8800gt. I am thinking about picking one up this summer as a cheap upgrade but am worried it would be too cpu limited.
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Hey bu1basaur, how does your rig play games with that 8800gt. I am thinking about picking one up this summer as a cheap upgrade but am worried it would be too cpu limited.
I run games like Stalker, HL2, Oblivion on pretty much max @ 1024x768/1280x1024 and it's very consistent (probably at 70-90fps). RTS games experience more framerate drops, and so do multiplayer games. The EVGA one I got was $200US and I think it's worth it, especially coming from a 6800.
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Download the Dual Core AMD driver.
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Thanks for the info guys. All my hardware arrived and I am installing Windows now. I have the CPU Driver already to go, and I guess I won't bother with the Optimizer thing then.

So far the only problem has been that my old IDE drive (slave) doesn't work, but the DVDR drive (master) does on the same ribbon. No biggie though, I'll figure that one out later. MY new SATA drive is working.
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Thanks for the info guys. All my hardware arrived and I am installing Windows now. I have the CPU Driver already to go, and I guess I won't bother with the Optimizer thing then.

So far the only problem has been that my old IDE drive (slave) doesn't work, but the DVDR drive (master) does on the same ribbon. No biggie though, I'll figure that one out later. MY new SATA drive is working.
If you're using Windows XP, download the optimizer and AMD's drivers plus the hotfix if you notice any problems. As for the hard drive, try making that master and the DVDROM slave (worked for my cousin). Good luck.
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