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Old 05-19-08, 02:00 PM   #37
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Default Re: GTA IV: (22" LCD 720p) vs. (32" 480p CRT)

If you're on a LCD, turn the sharpness/image enhancement down ALL THE WAY. Do this on any display, but it's crucial on a LCD. I see some MAJOR image 'enhancement' in some of those. Look at the white lines around the radar, on both the inner and outer circle. It's making the overall image look WAY worse than it should.

Bad image grab, but it shows what I'm talking about :
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/...5054841336.jpg

Destroy's shot :
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2117/img8140nj6.jpg


Also, it does look like the game has serious scaling issues. It looks like when you scale a picture in MS Paint, that's the (lack of) quality I'm seeing in those pics. Also there's the fact that LCDs tend to show jaggies more than other displays.
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Old 05-19-08, 02:13 PM   #38
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If you're on a LCD, [b]turn the sharpness/image enhancement down ALL THE WAY[/B It's making the overall image look WAY worse than it should.
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Good eye, I do have Sharpness to max, why? Cause it looks better on my LCD than a total blur fest. Can actually see textures instead of 'grease on my screen' effect over everything.
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Old 05-19-08, 02:20 PM   #39
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Good eye, I do have Sharpness to max, why? Cause it looks better on my LCD than a total blur fest. Can actually see textures instead of 'grease on my screen' effect over everything.
Well, it's a matter of choice then. Is the problem LCD blurring/ghosting that you're talking about or GTAIV? The image enhancements your display applies won't bring out texture details unless there's a lot of contrast (white on black), and can actually muddle subtle changes in textures (from brown to red, just as an example).

[edit : It's going to overemphasize stuff like that one leaf on the street I see in your pics, while underplaying other details. I can't imagine this actually looking good, because things will look really unnatural.]

I go for the purest image my displays will allow, I use the service menus on my HDTV for doing that (turning off all IE).
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Old 05-19-08, 02:29 PM   #40
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Yeah, there's no doubt TV settings make a difference in image but the game is still blurry. It is what it is I guess. I'm still putting up with it and liking the game.

Mathesar, can you post your camera shots in at least 2000x**** res like mailman2 and I did? Would like to see what a nice TV looks like.
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Yeah, there's no doubt TV settings make a difference in image but the game is still blurry. It is what it is I guess. I'm still putting up with it and liking the game.

Mathesar, can you post your camera shots in at least 2000x**** res like mailman2 and I did? Would like to see what a nice TV looks like.
Game looks pretty great on my TV as well, but I don't have the camera necessary to take decent pics off my CRTs, if that's possible at all. I have seen people take decent CRT pics on other forums in the past, but when I try you see the refresh lines really bad.

On my HDTV, I don't notice any more blur in GTA4 than other games, but that might be a blessing of the display type and not anything else.
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Good eye, I do have Sharpness to max, why? Cause it looks better on my LCD than a total blur fest. Can actually see textures instead of 'grease on my screen' effect over everything.
This is total rubbish. For almost all modern LCD TVs the best setting for a HD source is for Sharpness to be set to minimum. I have access to three LCD HDTVs and I could take pictures of all them using just a simple shot of partial Vista desktop and an Office document to prove my point.
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This is total rubbish. For almost all modern LCD TVs the best setting for a HD source is for Sharpness to be set to minimum. I have access to three LCD HDTVs and I could take pictures of all them using just a simple shot of partial Vista desktop and an Office document to prove my point.
No BS, sharpness wins in this game for my setup, maybe not yours. But yes, most games I have sharpness to 0, just not GTA4.
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