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Old 04-30-08, 03:09 AM   #1
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Default Crysis/gaming upgrade Help

I have been out of the hardware game for a while now so I was hoping for some advise on upgrading my PC because it doesn't run Crysis very well

At this stage I am looking at getting a Geforce 9800GTX, so that is sorted unless someone has a better idea.

For the best performance in Crysis and other demanding games would I be better off with an Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4ghx (Q6600) or an Intel Core 2 Duo 3Ghz (E8400)?

What chipset based mobo should I go for?
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If you can, you'd be better of waiting for the new cards in July. Currenty, the only single card that will cope at Very High settings is the 9800GX2. You could always go SLI with a pair of GTX's though.

E8400 is the one to go for IMO. As for the mobo, that's down to whether you wanna go SLI at any time. 780i if so, P35/X38 if not.
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Default Re: Crysis/gaming upgrade Help

Hey thanks for the advise. Might as well wait then till July, do you know what the specs are rumoured to be for the next video cards??
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Just have a look through the Rumor Mill. There's all sorts in there
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Old 05-01-08, 04:12 AM   #5
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Just checked out the rumour mill and the GT200 def looks like it will be worth the wait. Hey just one more question, would 2gigs be enough to run crysis at max detail under win xp?
Would love to run it in DX10 mode but don't really want to put up with Vista.
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Old 05-01-08, 01:06 PM   #6
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I can run crysis at all very high details with a few even higher and a couple of key values a little lower than very high and the system in my sig averages near 30 fps...which is a highly acceptable framerate for the crysis engine to be viewed at.

you may want to check out the 9600gt as a filler card temporarily until the GT's come out later in the year.

In all honesty though, you'll get spectacular eye candy even with an 8800gt.

If I were building a new gaming machine right now, I'd put all my money into the actual system and get a buget card. It's what I did back last march when I built the one in my sig. I had everything with a $100 7600gt card temporarily until the 8800 ultra oc's were down in the mid $400's and I got one then.

Now, I'd swing for the E8400, and a mobo w/single pcie 16X like the intel boards like the asus p5K deluxe, Abit IP35 pro, Asus P5E LGA or maximus formula (any board in the $200~275 range) with DDR2 support..

and then toss one of these in.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130329

Unless you feel like just overclocking one of the lower speed ones

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130334

Or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150253


But yeah, IMO, there's really no real reason to get the 9800GTX right now. It can't run crysis THAT much better than an 8800 ultra so why pay more? There's a very real noticable point of diminishing returns right now in the video card market. Consumers are marking a card's worth by it's crysis frame rendering prowess and a $560 9800 GX2's high res performance just isn't worth the price tag and the 9800gtx can't put up better benchmark numbers than a meager 8800 gts.


So, in my honest opinion, holding out for the new GT's later in the year is the smartest thing you can do with your money. Now just isn't the time IMO to upgrade much, if anything if you've already got a half decent rig.

Anything scoring above 10,000 3dmark06 is perfectly adequate right now. (to me at least)
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My 9800 GTX and Q6600 play Crysis on very high with a playable FPS.

I advise getting a quad core, dual core is a thing of the past, and I will never go back. About the Graphics card, I agree that you are better off waiting for July. I think we all are I know I am.
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I advise getting a quad core, dual core is a thing of the past, and I will never go back.
Despite numerous benchmarks of the E8400 at stock speeds out performing the QX9650...


Edit: In gaming at least
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Despite numerous benchmarks of the E8400 at stock speeds out performing the QX9650...


Edit: In gaming at least
E8400 out performs any quad core when playing older games. Quad core CPUs run in circles around dual cores when it comes to having multiple programs open, video or graphics editing, and in newer games that actually utilize all of the cores. I think in the near future we will see many games begin being able to utilize 4 cores at once.

In my opinion quad cores are overall better than dual cores.

It all comes down to personal opinion. Don't look at clock speeds when buying a cpu either, they mean very little. You can overclock, and a quad core with a lower clock speed will still out perform a dual core with a higher clock speed.


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E8400 out performs any quad core when playing older games. Quad core CPUs run in circles around dual cores when it comes to having multiple programs open, video or graphics editing, and in newer games that actually utilize all of the cores. I think in the near future we will see many games begin being able to utilize 4 cores at once.

In my opinion quad cores are overall better than dual cores.

It all comes down to personal opinion. Don't look at clock speeds when buying a cpu either, they mean very little. You can overclock, and a quad core with a lower clock speed will still out perform a dual core with a higher clock speed.


To each his own.
Well, as I originally told Pennyboy, there are few, if any games that actually are using all 4 cores. Of all the games that should, crysis, doesn't. It just looks at whatever brute force the GPU can offer.

Now with apps and other processes outside of gaming, yeah 2 extra cores are handy if you do lots of that stuff but that would be up to him to decide if he'll be doing enough multitasking or multi~app'ing to justify the extra 2 cores.
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When it comes to gaming, I personally wont choose quad core until the consoles have them. That's what most of the games are being made for anyways.
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I can run crysis at all very high details with a few even higher and a couple of key values a little lower than very high and the system in my sig averages near 30 fps...which is a highly acceptable framerate for the crysis engine to be viewed at.
Good for you, I get a slideshow at 2560x1600 DX10 @ very high. About 0.5 fps, so i would need 120 x 8800 GTX's to get 30 fps.
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