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Old 05-06-03, 12:52 AM   #13
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jakup in application mode, even 2aa or 2 af the nv30 loses
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Old 05-06-03, 01:09 AM   #14
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ok here is an example of where the geforcefx is faster... i cant find any 2xaa reviews.. but i knew there were some:

again im not saying the geforcefx is faster overall... but in some cases it is faster than the raddy... and also remember, these are on very old drivers

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Old 05-06-03, 01:11 AM   #15
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as i said in application mode with any aa or af nv30 loses
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i lose about 300 3dmarks moving from balanced to application mode... which is basically nothing... the new drivers really increase speed in the quality mode... here is another example... it says they used "high quality" but im not sure what that is...

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for the last ****ing time..
the nv30 DOES beat the 9700 in some tests... high resolution, low aa or no aa... the 9700 takes the lead by a large margin as you start to increase the aa though. quality modes compared to quality modes... the geforcefx still wins in some tests... (im talking about application slider, not aa or af)
Well duh! That's what I have been trying to say in my above post. Even though it may not have come out that way.
I was refering to the R300 beating the NV30 with max IQ options. I thought maybe someone might get a hint that low IQ options (2x AA etc...) the NV30 wins hands down. Some tests the NV30 even wins with 4X AA.

The NV30 isn't as horrible as some people may percieve it as. I don't think it's a horrible card, despite the NV30's disadvantages. The price of the card however is another thing. Around $1000 (depending what retailer, sometimes $1200 *cough* Harvey Norman, Clive Peters * cough* other times $950) for an 5800 Ultra here in Australia compared to a 9700 Pro $600.
Thes prices I'm stating are when you can get them cheap.

Prices like this have always been there for all NV's latest offerings.

Despite the drawbacks, it still is a good card. It's IQ isn't horrible (as I have been stating over the last few months) despite being behind the R300's.

I'm sure that most people do not play with over 2x AA and 8x AF. The NV30 will benefit those people.
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lol, but seriously can anyone help me?
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lol, but seriously can anyone help me?
sorry cant help you on this one
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And thats not even getting into the *FACT* that Nvidias 4x AA is totally and completely inferior in every concievable way.
should you also mention the totally inferior ati 8x lazy corner-cutting illusive exculsive-pretty-horizontal-flooring AF technology? lol
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Yeah right.. sure it beats the 9700pro.

Especially when you engineer the Settings to favor Nvidia. How convenient for you'all that there are so many unscroupulous web sites out there eh??

And thats not even getting into the *FACT* that Nvidias 4x AA is totally and completely inferior in every concievable way.
Gaaaaaaaargh!!! can you ever let anyone have a different opinion to you for once in your life?! Yes we all bow before your godly knowledge hellbinder. But for once shut up if all you are going to do is talk down to people.

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