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Old 05-21-08, 05:05 PM   #13
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Default Re: Can you use SPDIF (Optical) out for gaming in 5.1 - on Nforce 680i

I too thought a lot of boards lacked DDL. I know a lot AMD boards have DTS Connect though.
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Old 05-22-08, 03:06 AM   #14
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so.........can I send DTS to my Z-5500 speakers via the 3.5mm jack or do I have to use breakout box?

Im TOTALLY lost in regards the X-fi/z-5500. (Ive got one of the original ones from 06 Xtrememusic I think ( the one with heatsink and gold backplate))
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I've just found this out recently myself. You can output Stereo, DTS or DD from your mobos optical/coaxial out, but you need a DDLive sound card to encode the 5.1 sound from a game in to a signal that can be sent down spdif, optical or coaxial.

Does the Z5500 have 3.5mm analogue inputs too? If so you can use them for games and the optical input for movies. That's what i'll be doing cos I don't wanna shell out on a sound card that I don't really need.
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so.........can I send DTS to my Z-5500 speakers via the 3.5mm jack or do I have to use breakout box?

Im TOTALLY lost in regards the X-fi/z-5500. (Ive got one of the original ones from 06 Xtrememusic I think ( the one with heatsink and gold backplate))
The X-Fi cannot give you 5.1 surround in games over a digital connection.

If you want surround sound with an X-Fi in games, you'll have to use the analog 3.5mm jacks.

Since the Z-5500 is a PC speaker system, this is easy.

You don't need digital audio. DTS\Dolby DVD audio can be decoded by your PC and sent over the analog connections to your speakers for surround sound in movies.

If you really wanted to complicate things and use digital audio just for DVDs, you could hook your digital out from your soundcard to your Z-5500... but you'd have to switch input sources on your Z-5500 control pod every time you wanted to watch a DVD. Not a big deal, but considering the price of toslink cables it seems like a bit of a waste for no significant difference in sound quality.

EDIT: Nevermind, they are cheaper than I thought:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...d=10229&style=
Still, it'd overcomplicate things.
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Old 05-22-08, 12:50 PM   #17
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All current decent boards can do 5.1 with Dobly Digital live that have the Realtek 880ALC codec onwards has more CPU overhead but is still ok. So yes your board can do it but you will need a decorder for your speakers. I use the one with my Logitech Z5500.

I get 5.1 surround sound in games so long as windows is set for 5.1 so the audio codec can convert it into streams for the decorder to send to the speakers.
So do I need to get a sound card that can encode to DD live like Revs said 4 post below yours?

Or Just setup MB audio to:

5.1 in Windows Sound Devices
5.1 in Realtek Drivers (Control Panel)
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Optical output to 44.1Khtz / 48Khtz?



Do I need to download DD live Encoding drivers or anything?
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I've just found this out recently myself. You can output Stereo, DTS or DD from your mobos optical/coaxial out, but you need a DDLive sound card to encode the 5.1 sound from a game in to a signal that can be sent down spdif, optical or coaxial.

Does the Z5500 have 3.5mm analogue inputs too? If so you can use them for games and the optical input for movies. That's what i'll be doing cos I don't wanna shell out on a sound card that I don't really need.
Yeppers you sure can. I use analogue for games and co-ax digital for DVDs and other media with an DD/DTS soundtrack.

If you are using Vista to HAVE to use both, as in Vista Creative broke DD and DTS decoding over analogue.
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So do I need to get a sound card that can encode to DD live like Revs said 4 post below yours?

Or Just setup MB audio to:

5.1 in Windows Sound Devices
5.1 in Realtek Drivers (Control Panel)
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Optical output to 44.1Khtz / 48Khtz?



Do I need to download DD live Encoding drivers or anything?
Yes thats pretty much what you need to do, but yes the XFI does not support 5.1 with Digital it was the main reason why i sold it off. Thinking of these new XFi sound cards which can do it. Also there are some hacked drivers which 'appranetly' can enable dolby digital live input.
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Yeppers you sure can. I use analogue for games and co-ax digital for DVDs and other media with an DD/DTS soundtrack.

If you are using Vista to HAVE to use both, as in Vista Creative broke DD and DTS decoding over analogue.
You can still use ACFilter though right? I don't remember having any problems with 5.1 DVDs in Vista.
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I guess you could use a 3rd party solution...

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I don't think I've ever been able to even hear a DVD at all without installing AC3Filter first. Even in XP.

At least not since I used NVDVD way back in the day. I've been using Media Player Classic for 4 or 5 years.
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The X-Fi cannot give you 5.1 surround in games over a digital connection.

If you want surround sound with an X-Fi in games, you'll have to use the analog 3.5mm jacks.

Since the Z-5500 is a PC speaker system, this is easy.

You don't need digital audio. DTS\Dolby DVD audio can be decoded by your PC and sent over the analog connections to your speakers for surround sound in movies.

If you really wanted to complicate things and use digital audio just for DVDs, you could hook your digital out from your soundcard to your Z-5500... but you'd have to switch input sources on your Z-5500 control pod every time you wanted to watch a DVD. Not a big deal, but considering the price of toslink cables it seems like a bit of a waste for no significant difference in sound quality.

EDIT: Nevermind, they are cheaper than I thought:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...d=10229&style=
Still, it'd overcomplicate things.
But if I connect up via digital will I be able to get DTS sound, something i cannot do with 3.5mm analogue.
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But if I connect up via digital will I be able to get DTS sound, something i cannot do with 3.5mm analogue.
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DTS for what purpose? Movies or Games?
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