Games for Windows Live - WTF?

[MikeC]

I just had my first experience with Games for Windows Live and it totally sucked. I had a free coupon for Dirt2, which I was able to successfully install via Steam. But hell no, that wasn't ****ing good enough.

When I launched the game, I was required to create a Games for Windows Live ID in order to save my progress in the game. Otherwise, my game progress would not be saved. After 20 minutes of dealing with setting up a Games for Windlows Live ID, I finally thought enough is enough - **** this ****.

Codemasters, their publisher, and ATI (the coupon came with the purchase of a Radeon 5870) can kiss my ass if they think I'm going to go through this crap in order to be able to able to save my progress in the game.

I mean why the hell isn't installing the product through Steam good enough?

Game uninstalled...



Also, the Dirt2 install installed a third party sound system from Blue Ripple Sound Limited called Rapture3D software.

[nekrosoft13]

umm, mike, need to be a bit more observant.

steam gives you different key for live, its not the same key that you used to install the game

[WeReWoLf]

Wow... MikeC plays games?

[-=DVS=-]

Also you don't need Windows live online account to save games , just before you click go online scroll down there is hyperlink to create local account , no need for CD key or anything and you can save games. If you want to play singleplayer.

Originally Posted by WeReWoLf

Wow... MikeC plays games?

That's what I thought!

If you go to any GFWL forums, you'll see a lot of people defending this sort of crap. They even have it in their heads that it's better than using Steam. I'm sorry, but that's BS. I once swore I'd never use Steam, but now that it's matured, it seems to work great. Sure, sometimes they have problems, but that's to be expected.

I just wish things were going better with Steam ATM, what with the latest TF2 updates being so botched.

[nekrosoft13]

Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

Also you don't need Windows live online account to save games , just before you click go online scroll down there is hyperlink to create local account , no need for CD key or anything and you can save games. If you want to play singleplayer.

yap, was playing for entire week with no live account

[NarcissistZero]

I find the program somewhat annoying but not nearly as annoying as you seem to have.

I would advise a stress reliever.

[nekrosoft13]

Originally Posted by General Lee

If you go to any GFWL forums, you'll see a lot of people defending this sort of crap.

I hate GfWL, but what the hell are you talking about? Defending what crap?

what so hard to figure out about it?

1) you can play with no live account, that what offline account is for, done it for entire week
2) ATI radeon key DOES NOT equal LIVE key
3) after registering your ATI key on steam, steam gives you an actual LIVE key, that is diffrent from the original key

just like with most computer "issues" user/player is not paying attention

[MikeC]

Originally Posted by nekrosoft13

umm, mike, need to be a bit more observant.

steam gives you different key for live, its not the same key that you used to install the game

I know that. But even after creating a Windows Live ID and entering the multiplayer key, there was still another step that I needed to complete. Some **** about creating an avatar or something like that...

[MikeC]

Originally Posted by WeReWoLf

Wow... MikeC plays games?

Yes, when I have time. Usually on the weekends now.

[MikeC]

Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

Also you don't need Windows live online account to save games , just before you click go online scroll down there is hyperlink to create local account , no need for CD key or anything and you can save games. If you want to play singleplayer.

Thanks for the info - I certainly missed that. Why not make singleplayer the default?