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Old 06-25-08, 08:07 AM   #133
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I guess the short answer is...

BURNED THAT MOTHA DOWN!

But honestly, the 4800's don't make GTX260 and 280 and less of cards. They just need dramatic price adjustments to remain vailable.

nVidia is huge and have very deep pockets.

You know they have something up their sleeve. ATI deserves the spotlight now though for bringing it at the $200 and $300 price points.

Good work ATI and welcome back.

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Old 06-25-08, 08:13 AM   #134
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Outstanding - HD 4870 FTW!
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Old 06-25-08, 09:14 AM   #135
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Look at the tech reports review,since they test an HD4850 and an HD4870 crossfire setup in quite a lot of games and that the most demaining settings(2560*1600 4XAA/16X AF),the HD4870 crossfire leads a single GTX280(costing 50$ more),by anywhere from 25 to 50 FPS....It's also humiliating a 9800GX2 as well.

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14990/9


It's a given that the HD4870 X2 will be just as fast as that for sure,and with the addition of that crossfire sideport feature,it might not even need a PCI-e bridge chip so that the GPU's can communicate together,potentially leading to better scaling overall.
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Old 06-25-08, 09:44 AM   #136
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I have yet to see any meaningful reviews with GTX 260 SLi. If the price falls on that card it should make solid price vs performance competition for the 4870.

Currently, nVidia have two methods of AFR in addition to their others, while ATi has one AFR method. It's more likely SLi will actually work.

I'd be curious to see how TheWitcher actually plays on the new ATi cards in Crossfire. I got horrid stutter on HD 3850 Crossfire in that title, so much that I would disable it.
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Old 06-25-08, 09:51 AM   #137
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I have yet to see any meaningful reviews with GTX 260 SLi. If the price falls on that card it should make solid price vs performance competition for the 4870.

Currently, nVidia have two methods of AFR in addition to their others, while ATi has one AFR method. It's more likely SLi will actually work.

I'd be curious to see how TheWitcher actually plays on the new ATi cards in Crossfire. I got horrid stutter on HD 3850 Crossfire in that title, so much that I would disable it.

Ask and ye shall find...you'll have to scroll a bit,but the results speak for themselves....An HD4870 crossfire is matching an Nvidia GTX280 SLI in that particular game.


http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=21
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Old 06-25-08, 10:30 AM   #138
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Why is ATI cards always so ugly screaming red??
I wood like to se a review of every day use not only numbers, numbers is not everything (9800GX2 vs 280GTX the 280 is mush better in real life games) and how stable they are after hours of gaming.
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Why is ATI cards always so ugly screaming red??
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Old 06-25-08, 10:50 AM   #140
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It's a given that the HD4870 X2 will be just as fast as that for sure,and with the addition of that crossfire sideport feature,it might not even need a PCI-e bridge chip so that the GPU's can communicate together,potentially leading to better scaling overall.
It's really not a given, the 4870X2 is thought to actually be using two 4850 cores, only they have GDDR5. 4870X2 is only a working title that the industry has sprung upon, for all we know, it could very well be a 4850X2 or 4950X2 etc. Its possible the results could be the same, but I doubt we'll be seeing scores higher then 4870 Crossfire regardless of how the cores communicate. The RV770 core is efficient, but that doesn't mean ATI can simply paste two of them together and expect it to be acceptable with heat and power consumption, they already have heat problems as it is. They will need to cut corners somewhere, maybe even lowering the memory clock.
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If I were running things, and I am not , I would reduce the price of the GTX 260 while bumping it's clock up to 620-640. I'd raise the GTX 280 to 670-690 and slightly reduce it's price.

[H]ard was only able to raise the core clock on the HD 4870 30MHz which leads me to believe they are flirting with max more than nVidia at this time. There are some factory overclocked GTX 280 cards that are 68-98MHz over default clock right now. I am currently testing 700MHz on mine.

It will be interesting to see how nVidia responds to the HD 4870.
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If I were running things, and I am not , I would reduce the price of the GTX 260 while bumping it's clock up to 620-640. I'd raise the GTX 280 to 670-690 and slightly reduce it's price.

[H]ard was only able to raise the core clock on the HD 4870 30MHz which leads me to believe they are flirting with max more than nVidia at this time. There are some factory overclocked GTX 280 cards that are 68-98MHz over default clock right now. I am currently testing 700MHz on mine.

It will be interesting to see how nVidia responds to the HD 4870.
I hope they respond soon. I was pretty close to picking up a 280 but I'm gunna wait it out for a die shrink and price reduction.
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I just thought I'd post this because Brady posted .

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