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Old 05-14-03, 09:00 PM   #1
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Default Is Nvidia cheating to sell "graphic cards?"

What do you think?

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1086860,00.asp
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Old 05-14-03, 09:08 PM   #2
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im still a little unsure... because these latest drivers have given improvements in games too... (but more in benchies such as 3dmark03)
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Old 05-14-03, 09:15 PM   #3
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Quote:
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ot: thanks for the HL2 Movie in your sig..
ot: no problem... i just thought it a ****ing amazing movie... so i just had to sport it in the sig
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i think ExtremeTEch is completly misleading people..
THose Horrible screenshots are not noticeable to the
GAmers ,only to the developers (not Nvidia ) that have
access to 3dmark2003 from others camera points of view..

Imo.. if the GAmer cant notice any decrease in IQ
then i see *no problem* for more performance.
without noticeable decrease in IQ.

i think Extremetech and the Guys behind this...
we know who they are...
ATi is simply Crying like ladies! because the Nv35 kicked the ass,
of R350.. in games!!! where it matters..

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Way to work it prerendered-man NV40



source - moose i believe.
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Old 05-14-03, 09:46 PM   #6
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Problem is, people have been noticing slight visual anomalies (pixel smearing). Look in this forum for a thread started by AnteP.

Nothing worse than fanboys who always defend their favored IHV, no matter what.
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So you're saying that extremetech was paid off by ati to expose this "kinda different" notion of rendering outside of camera track view.

And you have the balls to say "quak, quak".

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doesnt whql check for this stuff??? because these same drivers have been whql'd
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ANd the balls to say this:

"finally! HardOcp dicovers AMerica... :
and dispelling the myth of the "always" superior IQ of ATI.

why it took so long for them to realize what everybody knows
since years?
ATI have been doing this (part time) filtering since the Radeon 8500..
it only have been improved abit recently but still nowhere close to Nvidia.
a technique that looks good in (STILL screnshots) ,but in real motion
if you care to notice you will see less IQ when you compare it with
Nvidia AF ,more noticeable when there is no flat surfaces."

Your conclusion, based on many different premises that you've proposed in other threads (above), is fallacious (princippo princippi) and hence will be looked upon as completely inane.

Infact

The few posts I've just read of yours are so inane that I can't believe that you are serious!

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Quote:
Originally posted by Nv40
i think ExtremeTEch is completly misleading people..
THose Horrible screenshots are not noticeable to the
GAmers ,only to the developers (not Nvidia ) that have
access to 3dmark2003 from others camera points of view..

Imo.. if the GAmer cant notice any decrease in IQ
then i see *no problem* for more performance.
without noticeable decrease in IQ.

i think Extremetech and the Guys behind this...
we know who they are...
ATi is simply Crying like ladies! because the Nv35 kicked the ass,
of R350.. in games!!! where it matters..
I don't think I've ever seen a more misguided post in my life. Read the article again.

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Problem is, people have been noticing slight visual anomalies (pixel smearing). Look in this forum for a thread started by AnteP.

Nothing worse than fanboys who always defend their favored IHV, no matter what.

yes , but we have already sites and Users Claiming that
Nvidia latest DEtonatorsFX drivers Fixed
3dmark2003 issues...

so until you can proof me that those "slight" errors ,
replicates in EVERYONE!!! using the DEtFx ,
then i see the Extremetech report,
Baseless on non FUndamental FActs..

if those "slight" errors does not happens in everyone
using the DetonatorsFx then this clearly means is not
in his drivers the Issue.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nv40
i think ExtremeTEch is completly misleading people..
THose Horrible screenshots are not noticeable to the
GAmers ,only to the developers (not Nvidia ) that have
access to 3dmark2003 from others camera points of view..

Imo.. if the GAmer cant notice any decrease in IQ
then i see *no problem* for more performance.
without noticeable decrease in IQ.

i think Extremetech and the Guys behind this...
we know who they are...
ATi is simply Crying like ladies! because the Nv35 kicked the ass,
of R350.. in games!!! where it matters..
Well, we'll count that as one cerebellum officially blown by the revelation.
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