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Old 07-28-02, 09:33 PM   #13
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I got an nForce 420-D back in February with an Athlon XP 1900+ Not really looking for a new setup until the Hammers come out though.

Though I went with the nForce, there is one thing that could make me pass on an nForce2 if it comes to pass. No way in hell do I want Palladium or SSSCA mandated hardware. If nVidia includes that dratted chip (and this goes for any manufacturer) and another does not....I hate all this DRM hardware nonsence they are proposing. I was thinking an nForce2 or latter (which supports Hammer) back before rumor held nVidia might go along with this Palladium nonsence...

When this gets included in the CPUs Gawd help us all though... A motherboard one might be able to buy cross seas (if Hollings and Co get laws mandating this for all products sold in the US) but what alternatives are there to both Intel and AMD that will run our x86 software? Yuck, plz don't even mention Cyrix

I do hope newer nForce drivers come out soon though. My nForce1 chipset could use some driver updates.

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Old 07-29-02, 01:39 AM   #14
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Will wait for Hammer and than decide. Even the so called DDR 400 Standard doesn't make me go change the board at all.
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Old 07-29-02, 01:41 AM   #15
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Old 07-29-02, 02:57 AM   #16
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I got an nForce 420-D back in February with an Athlon XP 1900+ Not really looking for a new setup until the Hammers come out though.

Though I went with the nForce, there is one thing that could make me pass on an nForce2 if it comes to pass. No way in hell do I want Palladium or SSSCA mandated hardware. If nVidia includes that dratted chip (and this goes for any manufacturer) and another does not....I hate all this DRM hardware nonsence they are proposing. I was thinking an nForce2 or latter (which supports Hammer) back before rumor held nVidia might go along with this Palladium nonsence...

When this gets included in the CPUs Gawd help us all though... A motherboard one might be able to buy cross seas (if Hollings and Co get laws mandating this for all products sold in the US) but what alternatives are there to both Intel and AMD that will run our x86 software? Yuck, plz don't even mention Cyrix

I do hope newer nForce drivers come out soon though. My nForce1 chipset could use some driver updates.
I read that AMD was disgusted that anyone was connecting Palladium with them. I doubt any of them will have it. Though I don't know.
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Old 07-29-02, 03:09 AM   #17
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Look at the proposal for Palladium though...it isn't just in the software this would manifest. OK, if PR people want to get picky then...then I'll put it this way. I have NO interest in buying any hardware which contains any TCPA "features". Similarly I would have been against buying hard drives containing CPRM and for similar reasons... And as to Hollywood's pet Senator Hollings, he can go shove it with his attempts to mussle the SSSCA renamed through Congress...

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Yeah Via did buy Cyrix...and they didn't make the CPUs any better. Then again they also bought S3, and S3 graphics cards have still remained a joke, even since 3dfx came out with the Voodoo Graphics that is. Via chipsets I've used, but as to their branding of Cyrix CPUs and S3 graphics cards
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Old 07-29-02, 03:34 AM   #18
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The thing I like the most about the nforce2 is that it should be very overclocking friendly.

Rumor says that you should be able to run it with a 200mhz fsb and 400mhz memory with the pci/agp still running at 33/66 mhz. That would be quite a jump from the nforce 1 overclocking abilities.
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Old 07-30-02, 09:26 AM   #19
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Old 07-30-02, 06:03 PM   #20
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I have plans for getting at least 1 nForce2. I can't really push my current WC setup right now because of my poor overclocking K7N, so hopefully nForce2 will alleviate this. I have no doubts Hammer will rock, but I think I want to use my Athlon system that I've poured so much money into before I transition to Hammer. And you never know, there might be a few bugs or high prices when Hammer first comes out.

If I can scrape together the cash, I really want to put a mATX nForce2 into my LAN box, but it might not happen. I thought I would have a CPU ready for it, but I tested it and it's dead.
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Old 07-30-02, 06:23 PM   #21
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I think it's wise to wait to buy a hammer. I mean theoretically they sound like the Uber CPU, but there could be some issues that pop up.
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Old 07-30-02, 06:44 PM   #22
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When hammer comes out, I'm gonna blow $CDN 5000 on a new rig.

Understand this. I am a lazy young man, i don't work.

I'm gonna get a job and work gull time on weekends to amass the funds.

Such is my excitement about Hammer.

Although the name is pretty lame. Except for thinderbird, intel has always had cooler names/codenames.

Northwood. Makes me think of an andventurer in a forest.

Thouroughbred. makes me think of beast love. ewww.
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Old 07-31-02, 03:20 AM   #23
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umm... isn't it worth waiting until hammer is out before we start going on about how awesome it is?
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Old 07-31-02, 04:10 AM   #24
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no, based on priliminary benchmarks it was performing quite well. of course, it may be prudent to take those benchies with a grain of salt. however, based on statements made by AMD about how Hammer would be faster than Athlon XP clock for clock, and based on it's bandwidth, we have reason to have high hopes
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