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Old 05-19-03, 10:35 AM   #193
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this is how clip planes and 3D software works.
That's how it CAN work. This is how clip planes and 3D software also works, when you are moving around a scene in which the viewable area is outside the clip planes:

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Old 05-19-03, 10:36 AM   #194
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The actual corruption that you SEE depends highly on the interaction between the software and the drivers, and the hardware. You cannot say what type of corruption would or would not be present.
the viewing volume maybe changed, but its still there you cant corrupt whole screen on any kind interaction, unless it is a BUG!

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You are looking at still screenshots from ET. You have no idea what the "frame by frame" corruption looks like.
have you seen the "frame by frame" corruption from ET?

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By your lack of response, I take that as you agree it's a cheat.
lol the rest of the whole must agree with ya
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Old 05-19-03, 10:40 AM   #195
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That's how it CAN work. This is how clip planes and 3D software also works, when you are moving around a scene in which the viewable area is outside the clip planes:

no clipping volume at all, its totally messed up, not a clipping plane problem.
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Old 05-19-03, 10:42 AM   #196
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Originally posted by Behemoth the viewing volume maybe changed, but its still there you cant corrupt whole screen on any kind interaction, unless it is a BUG!
Wrong. You can corrupt the whole screen, if you have moved the camera into a position where the entire veiw is outside the clipping planes.

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have you seen the "frame by frame" corruption from ET?
No...but I'm not the one claiming that the ET artificats are "not possible". I'm saying they are possible.

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lol the rest of the whole must agree with ya
heh...at least you are not simply insane. Though it does show your obvious bias by "not wanting" to just answer the question.
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Old 05-19-03, 10:44 AM   #197
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In any case, Behemoth...

So, since you don't believce it can be a clipping issue, what is YOUR opinion as to the nature of the, ahem, "bug?"

What could cause such rendering artificats....and cause them only when moving off a pre-determined camera path?
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Old 05-19-03, 10:47 AM   #198
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Wrong. You can corrupt the whole screen, if you have moved the camera into a position where the entire veiw is outside the clipping planes.



No...but I'm not the one claiming that the ET artificats are "not possible". I'm saying they are possible.


heh...at least you are not simply insane. Though it does show your obvious bias by "not wanting" to just answer the question.
why you separate the camera position from the viewing volume in the first place?
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Old 05-19-03, 10:48 AM   #199
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Wrong. You can corrupt the whole screen, if you have moved the camera into a position where the entire veiw is outside the clipping planes.
Exactly - You can often view the same effect by using the 'fly' command in a game like Half-Life, and moving to a part of the level the game developers didn't expect you to that's totally outside the clipping planes.
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Old 05-19-03, 10:49 AM   #200
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In any case, Behemoth...

So, since you don't believce it can be a clipping issue, what is YOUR opinion as to the nature of the, ahem, "bug?"

What could cause such rendering artificats....and cause them only when moving off a pre-determined camera path?
possibly bug.
possibly nvidia cheat.
possibly futuremark cheat.
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Exactly - You can often view the same effect by using the 'fly' command in a game like Half-Life, and moving to a part of the level the game developers didn't expect you to that's totally outside the clipping planes.
can you post a screenshot?
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Joe.. You are addressing Behemoth like he actually even understands what is being discussed in this thread. He is in no position to even discuss what a Clip-plane is, or half the other technical subjects that get brought up around here.

Arguing with this guy or a handfull of others is pointless. They just type up contrary responses as fast as they can. Regardless of what the content of the discussion actually is.

This is truely what seperates Dyed in the wool *Fanboys* like these, from people who have a hardware/software *Preference*.
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can you post a screenshot?
I'll see if I can dig one up tonight.
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Old 05-19-03, 10:59 AM   #204
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Joe.. Dont talk to Hellbinder like he actually even understands what is being discussed in this thread. He is in no position to even discuss what a Clip-plane is, or half the other technical subjects that get brought up around here.

Arguing with this guy or a handfull of others is pointless. They just type up contrary responses as fast as they can. Regardless of what the content of the discussion actually is.

This is truely what seperates Dyed in the wool *Fanboys* like these, from people who have a hardware/software *Preference*.

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