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Old 10-08-08, 11:09 AM   #37
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I've played both the CS:S zombie mod and ZPS and I would have to say I preferred the zombie mod. ZPS had some potential but as I said in another thread here, once the survivors learn where the good weapons are it becomes a big camp-fest and running around for 15 minutes with nothing happening is not fun. That was a while ago so maybe they've fixed the balance somewhat though. I do agree that it has some really nice maps with good atmosphere.

The zombie mod is just team deathmatch CT's against zombies. It's been pretty entertaining at our LAN parties.

Edit: BTW, anybody played Zombie Master? It sounds like an interesting twist on the concept.
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Old 10-09-08, 02:50 AM   #38
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Wow ZPS is awesome now. I played it a while back and it seemed kind of lame but I just played it for about 2 hours and it was just good solid fun. The maps are generally pretty good, the weapon layout is random so the survivors can't just run the same pattern every time to win, and team work seems to come very naturally.

It was probably due to the great players on the server, but the game was just plain awesome. I'm completely impressed.

Only gripes:
Odd laggy areas where you get sort of stuck in the floor or movement gets all delayed. Tends to happen on roofs, which is bad since that's usually where your "last stand" is. Jumping seems to fix it temporarily. Not a real big issue.

Physics objects add some good flavor to the game, but they're very buggy and people tend to exploit this by putting small objects near ladders or door ways. They really shouldn't be obstacles but they turn into a lag fest for any zombies or survivors who happen to step on them. Also, some ladders are pretty glitchy and are easily exploited as choke points.

Fire is a little irritating. I can see it causing damage to people who walk in it, but the blinding flame effect that lasts several seconds is a bit excessive.

Some strange features of maps can cause some initial confusion which may throw off new players. Ladders that do nothing, weapon caches that are just for decoration...

That's all I can think of that's wrong with this game. Its a lot of fun and I found surprisingly little to complain about. Usually everything bugs me with mods, but this one is VERY solid gameplay wise and was perfectly stable.

If you played Zombie Panic: Source in the past and didn't like it, definitely give it another shot.

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Old 10-09-08, 05:06 AM   #39
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Excellent reviews CaptN.
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Old 10-09-08, 05:33 AM   #40
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Forgot to mention, I played Age of Chivalry last night and it was pretty much the same as I remember it from a while back. It looks very good and they obviously put a lot of time into it, but it just kind of feels "off".

One of the servers I played on used low gravity and had no team kill penalty for a while so it was complete chaos, and that was actually pretty fun. Playing the game correctly is kind of boring though. The controls are a bit complicated and odd compared to other games and the attacks feel slow and unresponsive. If you're into realistic medieval combat its definitely worth a look, though whether its realistic, interesting or fun... I'll leave up to you. For me, it has its moments that are entertaining, but there can be a lot of sluggish wandering and respawning in between those moments.

I think that covers all of the mods.

Overall I'd give this first package of 5 mods a 7/10. They're all at least mildly entertaining, but they all need work. ZPS is by far the best (9/10 for me as far as mods go these days). Insurgency is a distant second. After that would be DIPRIP, then Age of Chivalry and Synergy. I had high hopes for Synergy because I'm a big Sven Coop fan, but at this point it isn't even close to stable and most servers are running the original HL2 and episodes maps which are incredibly boring and definitely not meant for coop play. With more coop oriented maps and significantly more stable code Synergy could be amazing.
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Old 10-09-08, 08:54 AM   #41
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I had high hopes for Synergy because I'm a big Sven Coop fan, but at this point it isn't even close to stable and most servers are running the original HL2 and episodes maps which are incredibly boring and definitely not meant for coop play. With more coop oriented maps and significantly more stable code Synergy could be amazing.
Are you running the 1.0 or 1.1 from the website? I haven't had a crash yet on 1.1, and a few of the custom coop maps have some good gameplay.
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Cool, I have a LAN party coming up in about a month so I'll have to suggest we try ZPS again. That's where I first played it anyway.
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Old 10-09-08, 12:16 PM   #43
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The only mods I play for HL2 thus far are Pirates Vikings and Knights II (www.pvkii.com), Battlegrounds Source (http://www.bgmod.com/) and Zombie Master (http://www.zombiemaster.org/).

PVKII is amazing, and improves on PVK from HL1 a lot, the graphics and gameplay are great. The dev team has been working on it since before HL2 even came out, and you can tell there is a ton of work in it.

Battlegrounds is a staple of my LAN parties. Whenever there is a lull or we get bored, we open BG and just have fun. Its SO bad that its fun, I cant explain it, but trying to reload a musket from the revolutionary war while a red coat is charging you, and bayonets you because you cant reload, just makes for a lot of fun; especially with friends.

ZM is much better than ZP (imo, a lot of people disagree), it isnt the most bug free or pretty looking game, but itll hold me over on my zombie needs until L4D. Its really fun to play with friends, one player controls/"buys" zombies in an RTS fashion, and the players have to survive and usually complete objectives.
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Are you running the 1.0 or 1.1 from the website? I haven't had a crash yet on 1.1, and a few of the custom coop maps have some good gameplay.
I'm using whatever is in Steam. It updated yesterday, so I assume its the latest version.

I played it before the update so maybe its more stable, but like I said in my other post it wasn't just the game crashing it was the servers crashing or dropping connections. That could be due to non-dedicated servers but if that's the case they really need more dedicated servers on the east coast. Preferably running Synergy maps, rather than HL2 maps that are only meant for one player.
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Wow, I can't stop playing ZPS.

What a great mod. I've played it for a few hours every night for the past 5 days. Last night I had the most INSANE round ever.

I can't remember the name of the map but it was a city area, at night, with lots of 1-2 floor appartments, police cars on the streets and a little park with a swing set in the middle. The layout is more realistic and less maze-like than most ZPS maps.

Our guys were doing pretty good, camping out around the park and one of the appartments but once ammo started getting short we started losing a lot of guys. I was with one other guy and we were off on our own looking for ammo. When we got back to the park everyone else was dead. I saw 2 boxes of magnum ammo nearby but neither of us had a magnum (best gun in the game if you have good aim).

My buddy got ambushed and killed so it was just me. I had a few rounds for an SMG and 20 rounds for pistol. I ran to the park hoping for some ammo and guns and I managed to find a magnum. I was getting swarmed from every angle and ended up jumping from a balcony to get to the magnum ammo I saw earlier. For the last 5 minutes of the round I held off and killed the entire zombie team. Probably between 10 and 15 zombies. I had 6 or 7 head shots (one hit kills with the magnum) and I only had 2 bullets left at the end of the round.

It was INTENSE. A bunch of people kept saying "he has to be botting...".

Easily the most fun and intense round I've had in an MP game since the old Firearms mod days in 2001.
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