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Old 12-10-08, 12:16 PM   #13
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It looks like all 9400/9500 cards are PCI Express 2.0 which excludes me since my motherboard is v1.0a. Looks like I'm getting a G98 8400 GS for sure.

Have you read the newegg.com reviews of your card? It sounds like there is a problem with one of the soldered components falling off during shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127342
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Old 12-10-08, 01:25 PM   #14
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I think the vdpau announcement came before the driver had official 9400/9500 support. (at least 9400gm cards weren't supported at that time) The important feature is 'vp3' which the card needs for vc-1 support. Also check the wikipedia page and google for it.
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Old 12-10-08, 01:30 PM   #15
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Thanks Thunderbird. I'm going for a 9500 GT. I'm hoping a PCI Express 2.0 card will work in a 1.0a slot.
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Old 12-10-08, 05:26 PM   #16
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I'm copying my post from the other thread just so people see it here too.

This is in reference specifically to VC-1 support.

9400 addin cards: I don't think so.
9400 integrated graphics (i.e. chipset): I believe so.
9500: I don't think so.
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Old 12-10-08, 07:24 PM   #17
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Hi.

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It looks like all 9400/9500 cards are PCI Express 2.0 which excludes me since my motherboard is v1.0a. Looks like I'm getting a G98 8400 GS for sure.

Have you read the newegg.com reviews of your card? It sounds like there is a problem with one of the soldered components falling off during shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127342
I suspect PCI-E v2 is backward compatible and also suspect the MSI card is PCI-E 2 although it's not something I have looked at. The card is in a GA-M55plus-S3G (rev. 1.0) which appears to be PCI-E v1?

I did read the review about the card at newegg, yes, and the crystal can be found on the back of the card as per the images there. I took special notice not to put undue
pressure on it during handling and to be honest, the packaging is fine.

With regard to bit-stream offloading as per VC1_VLD then that's documented in DXVA_WMV.pdf. Notices on the net about the G96 give mixed indications with some suggestion that there is G96B? It's a minefield choosing a card right now.

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Old 12-10-08, 11:59 PM   #18
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G96 does not support VC-1, using VDPAU at least.
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Old 12-11-08, 09:04 AM   #19
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Hi Stephen, do you work for Nvidia? This is not good news for me with a 9500 GT on the way from NewEgg. Sounds like Wikipedia (and nvnews member "Thunderbird") are dead wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce...eForce_9500_GT

Are certain 8400's the only non-mobile, non-integrated cards that support VC-1 right now?
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Old 12-11-08, 10:41 AM   #20
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Hi Stephen, do you work for Nvidia?
Yes.

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This is not good news for me with a 9500 GT on the way from NewEgg. Sounds like Wikipedia (and nvnews member "Thunderbird") are dead wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce...eForce_9500_GT
There is some confusion regarding the terms PureVideo 3, VP3, etc. Note that none of these are official NVIDIA terms. I don't really know the history, but I think the Windows drivers exposed some new features in DXVA only on G96 (or maybe just in a driver release that was the first to support G96) or something like that. For this reason, people thought G96 was PureVideo generation 3 and/or contained VP3 hardware. I don't know what the existing situation is with DXVA, but VDPAU certainly doesn't support VC-1 on G96.

See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PureVid...Purevideo_GPUs

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Are certain 8400's the only non-mobile, non-integrated cards that support VC-1 right now?
I'm not really familiar enough with our marketing names to say for certain. I get confused by them. However, as far as I can tell, "certain 8400" is probably your best bet.
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Old 12-13-08, 07:43 AM   #21
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Stephen, do you know if newer releases of nvidia-drivers (180.16 for example) might extend VC-1 decoding support to other cards?
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Stephen, do you know if newer releases of nvidia-drivers (180.16 for example) might extend VC-1 decoding support to other cards?
vdpau does only support full hw acceleration, so if the hw (gpu) can't decode VC-1 fully in hardware support is very unlikely.
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Good point.
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Stephen, do you know if newer releases of nvidia-drivers (180.16 for example) might extend VC-1 decoding support to other cards?
180.16 doesn't allow me to now play VC-1. 8600m GT.
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