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Old 05-31-03, 01:39 AM   #13
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its the best nvidia video card on the market @ this time... no doubt...
But he asked which is better between the 9800 Pro and the 5800, he didn't even specify the 5800 ultra but I took that for a given anyways.

A 9800 Pro will eat a 5800 Ultra for lunch.

Then again, a 5900 ultra would be a fairer match up in me opinion...a fair fight between those two cards is something I would like to see.
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A 9800 Pro will eat a 5800 Ultra for lunch.

not in doom3 i bet
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Old 05-31-03, 02:22 AM   #15
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I was just wondering which is better out of the Radeon 9800 Pro or the FX5800 Ultra, I assume teh 5900 will own them all. Are nVidia making a comeback?
here are a couple of reviews of the Fx5900ultra vs Radeon9800pro

Anandtech..
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1821

HardOcp..
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDcy

Toms..
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...512/index.html


and for Doom3 fans preliminary benchmarks
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0

cant wait to see Halflife2 benchmarks ..

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It's a good card.
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Most games now that needs DX9 installed it mainly for Direct Play and Direct sound.
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not in doom3 i bet
How about you wait until its released and not influenced by Nvidia? I think Terry Makedon said it best

"The Doom III benchmarks were instigated by Nvidia, using software provided by Nvidia, under the supervision and guidance of Nvidia. In at least one case, they were actually conducted at Nvidia's labs. Currently Doom III is both unfinished and unreleased. As a benchmark it is completely meaningless at this time. When Doom III is finished and released publicly, our drivers will certainly be tuned for optimal game play."
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How about you wait until its released and not influenced by Nvidia? I think Terry Makedon said it best

"The Doom III benchmarks were instigated by Nvidia, using software provided by Nvidia, under the supervision and guidance of Nvidia. In at least one case, they were actually conducted at Nvidia's labs. Currently Doom III is both unfinished and unreleased. As a benchmark it is completely meaningless at this time. When Doom III is finished and released publicly, our drivers will certainly be tuned for optimal game play."
I was gonna say something, but Reever2 said it muchly better.

What he said.
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5800 Ultra will eat 9800pro for lunch in Doom3, i bet again
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we'll just run our r3XX's using the R200 path (which carmack said is faster than NV30 path) and we'll use YOU guys to tell the rest of the world that even though it uses less percision and slightly degrades image quality it's just as good. THEN WE WILL CLAIM D3 SPEED SUPERIORITY!!!! muhahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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we'll just run our r3XX's using the R200 path (which carmack said is faster than NV30 path) and we'll use YOU guys to tell the rest of the world that even though it uses less percision and slightly degrades image quality it's just as good. THEN WE WILL CLAIM D3 SPEED SUPERIORITY!!!! muhahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JC said nv30 path is fastest, but running r200 path is certainly a right step in the right direction for you
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show me the quote where carmack said nv30 path is fastest please.
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show me the quote where carmack said nv30 path is fastest please.
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The Nvidia card will be fastest with "r_renderer nv30", while the ATI will be a tiny bit faster in the "r_renderer R200" mode instead of the "r_renderer ARB2" mode that it defaults to (which gives some minor quality improvements). The "gfxinfo" command will dump relevant information about the functioning renderer modes and optimizations. At some point, after we have documented all of the options and provided multiple datasets, Doom is going to be an excellent benchmarking tool, but for now you can still make some rough assessments with it."
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