180.22 released stable! Discussion thread

[JaXXoN]

Originally Posted by gqman69

FIX overclockability for GTX200

Does there exist a "known" issue with overclockability concerning GTX200?

I recently purchased a XFX GTX260 Black Edition with factory settings
666/1150/1404MHz for core/ram/shaders. However, i experienced frequent
hard crashes with UT2004 and X-Plane (my only "serious" 3D apps). So i
clocked it at the most common 576/1000MHz for core/ram and i didn't
had any crashes since then. The situation is that i typically tend to not
overclock CPUs or GPUs, because the potential (almost not recognizable)
ten or whatever percent increase in performance isn't worth the more
likely stability loss. However, in the past few years, i had pretty good experiences
with factory default overclocked graphics cards. The XFX Black Edition has only
been a few Euros more expensive than the default clocked cards,
so i didn't loose much by now clocking it at "nvidia-default" frequencies.

However, if this is just a "software issue", then i'd be curious :-)

regards

Bernhard

[nvpro]

FIX compiz
FIX the insane composite lag everybody is talking about, run ATI or Intel with composite and watch how it should feel

What's wrong with Compiz or compositing in general?
I have a noticeable performance drop with ATI/Intel, since texture_from_pixmap still isn't a zero-copy operation, it's much better with NVidia: virtually no drop in 2D performance with Compiz enabled.

[apaige]

Originally Posted by apaige

Screen remains black when connected to the GeForce 8300 IGP's HDMI socket with a HDMI to DVI cable.

My bad, it's my old Iiyama PLE431S acting up again. It works fine with my more recent Iiyama PLE2003WS.

[Sean_W]

Originally Posted by gqman69

You know, what I don't understand is how nVidia claim this (the race condition) to be a problem of nvidia+xorg+compiz but in the meanwhile I enjoy perfect compiz with my laptop+intel... Furthermore, ATI users have very nice KDE4 performance even though their drivers are retarded in terms of features and programming ethics.

Why don't you fix MAJOR problems instead of stupid small fixes?

FIX compiz
FIX suspend/resume
FIX overclockability for GTX200
FIX the insane composite lag everybody is talking about, run ATI or Intel with composite and watch how it should feel

Ridiculous.

Race conditions are bad, if you hit that bug your screwed, dont assume you won't and just because it works fine dont mean it is.

[harrydance]

I thought all the 2D problems were meant to be fixed by now?

Firefox with smooth-scrolling is still horribly slow for, for example on this page, scrolling is noticeably worse than under vista. Is this definitely a driver problem or should I be looking somewhere else?

[Vla]

I really wonder what some consider major problems.

Compiz problems => Major ?
Overclocking problems => Major?

Get real.

[gqman69]

Vla retarded comment.

I got a 300$ card that can't do composite better, in fact worst than my laptop with an onboard Intel.

You get real.

[zim2dive]

Originally Posted by Vla

I really wonder what some consider major problems.

Compiz problems => Major ?
Overclocking problems => Major?

Get real.

On the 8200, full-screen flash (hulu HD, or The Daily show) works very well under 173. Any driver past that, it chokes, then spiral to nothing (few fps.. then some stutter, then nothing).. but with 173 it works just fine (but then there is no HDMI audio.. need 177+ for that).

Reports suggest similarly bad behavior on the 8300.

For me its major enough that I'm doing research on other solutions even tho I just bought this machine 2 months ago.. I'll see it and get something else.

[rockman1981]

Originally Posted by Vla

I really wonder what some consider major problems.

Compiz problems => Major ?
Overclocking problems => Major?

Get real.

I would agree for overclocking, but 3D desktops are currently the most used desktop feature.
And we've problems not only on compiz, but on kde kwin4 too.
Having a composite so slow is a serious issue... and having it crashing every 2 minutes or so is even worst.
Having a new shiny 3D card and being not able to run a 3D desktop (while Vista is doing this for free) is a shame.
And anyway, every regression problem is always a major problem, unless the lost feature is unsupported

[psychok9]

What is composite?

[laurijh]

Originally Posted by rockman1981

(while Vista is doing this for free)

For free? I think you're a bit confused about M$ business model...

I for one would like to thank NVidia for this big bunch of fixes and new features. This one sounds especially interesting: "Added initial support for PureVideo-like features via the new VDPAU API" - does it mean that the GPU's acceleration features can be used even if it has only partial support for a video format, and do the rest in software? Until now VDPAU has required that either 100% of video decoding and displaying is done in HW or then it's all done in software.

[Dragoran]

Originally Posted by laurijh

Until now VDPAU has required that either 100% of video decoding and displaying is done in HW or then it's all done in software.

that has not changed.