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Old 01-10-09, 06:12 AM   #1
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Cool Hall of Fame: Unigine Tropics Demo Results

Post your results here. Thank you!

Code:
    Tropics Demo v1.1

FPS:	41.4
Scores:	1043

    Hardware

Binary:			Linux 32bit GCC 4.1.2 Release Oct 29 2008
Operating system:	Linux 2.6.28-k8l i686
CPU model:		AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
CPU flags:		1004MHz MMX+ 3DNow!+ SSE SSE2 SSE3 HT
GPU model:		GeForce 8800 GT PCI Express 180.18 512Mb
Test method
1. Download Unigine_Tropics-1.1.tar.bz2 from here
2. Unpack this archive
3. Run ./fullscreen_1280x1024.sh (preferably with composite window managers and any other OpenGL applications shut down)
4. Wait until the engine finishes loading its data
4. Push "F9" or hit "Benchmark" button at the top of the screen
5. Wait for the test to complete and post your results here

Please, do not change the defaults settings
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Old 01-10-09, 06:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: Hall of Fame: Unigine Tropics Demo Results

Since Unigine is a commercial software, and one copy of it costs at least more than 4 months of my income, I think it is NOT FAIR to ask for free beta testing to people here.

But I am curious and I tried it anyway: the engine could not find a suitable video mode for the 1280x1024 that you asked, so it ran windowed 640x480, taking the log attached below.

Anyway, I tried other resolutions and 1024x768 was fine for fullscreen. But FPS is the same (three?!?!). I think this need more work.
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Old 01-10-09, 06:46 AM   #3
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Default Re: Hall of Fame: Unigine Tropics Demo Results

Your video card is based on 8400M-GS GPU, however I didn't expect the latter to have such a low result - 3.3FPS@640x480 in your case.
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Old 01-10-09, 07:52 AM   #4
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Your video card is based on 8400M-GS GPU, however I didn't expect the latter to have such a low result - 3.3FPS@640x480 in your case.
I reinstalled the 180.22 drivers... but 3FPS again (fullscreen 1024x768)

it seems there is something going bad
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Old 01-10-09, 10:52 AM   #5
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Default Re: Hall of Fame: Unigine Tropics Demo Results

Not too bad for a laptop

http://itsyourpc.org/bruce/files/Tropics_1.html

http://itsyourpc.org/bruce/files/Sanctuary_1.html
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Old 01-10-09, 06:52 PM   #6
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I reinstalled the 180.22 drivers... but 3FPS again (fullscreen 1024x768)

it seems there is something going bad
It's very curious..
I tried this demo this afternoon having 177.82, since here i've the infamous crash/screen corruption on 180.xx, and i had reasonable results (25 fps average).
This evening i reinstalled for the next time 180.22 drivers trying another configuration (and hoping it wouldn't crash again).
After a while, i disabled composite and tried the benchmark again: 5 fps average.
This driver release really has something weird...
madimage: can you try with 177.xx?
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Old 01-10-09, 08:29 PM   #7
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Tropics:
FPS: 37.5
Scores: 945
Hardware
Binary:Linux 32bit GCC 4.1.2 Release Oct 29 2008
Operating system:Linux 2.6.27-9-generic x86_64
CPU model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
CPU flags: 1999MHz MMX+ 3DNow!+ SSE SSE2 SSE3 HT
GPU model: GeForce 8800 GT PCI Express 180.11.02 512Mb

Sanctuary demo
benchmark edition v2.1
FPS: 46.2
Scores:1959
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Old 01-11-09, 03:49 AM   #8
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Ok, I tried with 177.82, same result: 2 FPS 1024x768 fullscreen and 3 FPS 640x480 windowed

With 180.22: 2 FPS 1024x768 fullscreen and 3 FPS 640x480

Then I tried to switch off desktop effects and gained one FPS!
With 180.22: 3 FPS 1024x768 fullscreen and 3 FPS 640x480

There's definitely something wrong. Do you have a more verbose debug or log that can make things clear? Maybe there is some OpenGL effect that is not supported by my card and is performed via software
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Old 01-11-09, 04:21 AM   #9
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Uniengine heavily uses many new OpenGL 2.0 effects (especially shaders), so there's nothing wrong that old low range GPU's show such results.

Consider Shader Processing Rate:
8800GT: 504.0 Gigaflops
8400M : 38.4 Gigaflops

(fetched from Wikipedia)
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Old 01-11-09, 04:32 AM   #10
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Uniengine heavily uses many new OpenGL 2.0 effects (especially shaders), so there's nothing wrong that old low range GPU's show such results.

Consider Shader Processing Rate:
8800GT: 504.0 Gigaflops
8400M : 38.4 Gigaflops

(fetched from Wikipedia)
This should not be discovered by trials, it should be state clearly in the website. You say that a video card of last year does not fit the needs of your engine.

The website, instead, says:
"Moreover, Unigine 1.0 supports 6 generations of GPUs: from NV30 / R300 to the newest ones, so it's extremely scalable. Being a registered developer of NVIDIA and AMD (formely ATI) we work closely with hardware vendors to obtain the best results."

At least if you really think that a game can be played at 2 FPS, you should rethink how you advertise the video card support, or rethink something about the engine itself.
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Old 01-11-09, 05:52 AM   #11
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Of course it supports those cards. Those cards will run the "benchmark". Those cards may or may not support newer effects.

If thats the case then it is a valid "benchmark" of a cards capabilities. Which of course is the whole idea of a benchmark.
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Old 01-11-09, 08:25 AM   #12
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Of course it supports those cards. Those cards will run the "benchmark". Those cards may or may not support newer effects.

If thats the case then it is a valid "benchmark" of a cards capabilities. Which of course is the whole idea of a benchmark.
Ok I know... I was discussing the results of this "benchmark"... I also tried to remove all effects using the interface and putting all quality to "low". In this configuration, I can reach peaks of 5 FPS.

Are you sure there is not a problem with nVidia drivers, Unigine or something else?

Come on, be real. "Supported" in the context of a video game engine means that you can play, not that you can see an image per second. Do you want gamers with a video card like mine to buy a not-cheap videogame just to discover that they CANNOT play? Do you want clients of Unigine to re-test all cards just because they do not trust Unigine statements about video cards?

Now I am curious, I want to test it on windows. If I can reach 30 FPS in windows, are you sure there is no problem with the drivers?
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